Self levelling cracks

Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by Ammar Al-Taweel, Mar 12, 2021.

  1. Ammar Al-Taweel

    Ammar Al-Taweel New Member

    Hi all,
    I have a room with old plastic/vinyl tiles on top of concrete floor. I want to put laminate on top of those but there is a 2 foot wide, 10mm deep dip in the floor that goes across the whole room.
    I used MAPEI 3240 to fill it but within 2 days cracks started appearing and it was lifting from the edges. The vinyl tiles underneath are solid. I didn't use a primer because the tiles are not likely to absorb any moisture.

    Where did I go wrong? Are there any other products that can stick better to those tiles without cracking?
  2. Rob_bv

    Rob_bv Active Member

    The Mapei won't have gripped the vinyl tiles, so you'll end up with a floating 10mm of compound that will likely crack and break up over time and subject to foot traffic. The primer isn't just for moisture-absorbing backgrounds, it's to aid adhesion.

    In the past I've had to fill over vinyl tiles as a last resort (usually old asbestos-containing 60s/70s-era tiles), in that case I prime with SBR, scatter a few handfuls of washed sand, coat again with SBR and pour whilst it's still tacky.
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  3. Ammar Al-Taweel

    Ammar Al-Taweel New Member

    Thanks Rob. I'll give it a try.
    Is washed sand the same as sharp sand?
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  4. Rob_bv

    Rob_bv Active Member

    Sharp sand will do the trick, just be careful that there aren't any large grains (sharp sand can contain anything up to 12mm iirc)
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  5. koolpc

    koolpc Screwfix Select

    Why didnt you lift up the tiles in the first place? That would be the right way.
  6. Tilt

    Tilt Screwfix Select

    Ye-Ha........ Lol.
  7. Rob_bv

    Rob_bv Active Member

    Not saying its the same situation, but when I had to do it it was because the tiles contained asbestos; all the loose tiles or the tiles that came up easy were taken up, but a couple of clusters were stuck solid and started to break up when attempts were made to lift them.
  8. Ammar Al-Taweel

    Ammar Al-Taweel New Member

    Thanks Rob.
    I have done it now and it hasn't cracked (10 days now).

    Removing the tiles would've been the better option but I didn't want to create more work for myself and being a beginner I was worried I would create more problems by removing the tiles.
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