Shamima Begum

Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by chippie244, Mar 9, 2019.

  1. Jimmycloutnail

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  2. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    This is going round and round and round.

    You repeatedly state facts and then try and "prove" it with erroneous info or outdated info or speculation.
     
  3. Jimmycloutnail

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    No that was a link to the precidents set, this the reasoning the governments decision, come on you just haven’t read the link or the appendix
     
  4. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Not blinkered.

    I just know how to sort fact from opinion.
     
  5. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    I have read the link.

    Its speculation on what might happen.
     
  6. Jimmycloutnail

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    Its speculation on what might happen.[/QUOTE]

    no that’s the precedent that the attorney general has advised the HS is the basis of his decision
     

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  7. Jimmycloutnail

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    It pretty clear they have a strong claim that she does in fact have dual nationality
     
  8. Jimmycloutnail

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    Feel free to lead me to the facts instead of just shouting racist and human rights
     
  9. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    So let me get this right.

    Originally you stated the UK could make someone stateless. Lots of countries can, Australia can etc etc

    Thats been established as factually incorrect.

    Now you are saying actually she has had her citizenship removed because Javid reckons she has another citizenship.

    So seemingly now you are acknowledging that actually in order to have citizenship removed you have to another citizenship.

    Which is precisely the opposite of what you originally thought?

    So in short Sajid Javid cannot make someone stateless because if she does get Bangladeshi citizenship its within the law.

    If she doesnt then its outside the law.

    All I have said is that he cannot leave someone without citizenship.
     
  10. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Again where have I called you a racist.
     
  11. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    This is painful.

    At present she doesnt.
     
  12. Jimmycloutnail

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    I’m not sure you are reading the same thing, people who are born to Bangladeshi citizens living in the uk are automatically give Bangladeshi citizenship there is a source within the link where you can read the full case study
     
  13. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    no that’s the precedent that the attorney general has advised the HS is the basis of his decision[/QUOTE]

    My god.

    You are now arguing against yourself.

    At the beginning you reckoned he could leave her stateless. As in no citizenship anywhere

    Now you are saying he revoked her citizenship precisely because he wasnt going to leave her statelesss as she has Bangladeshi citizenship.
     
  14. Jimmycloutnail

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    I’ve already said I was mistaken as I wasn’t aware the UK adopted that rule fairly recently however prior to that the uk had an exemption as I have provided evidence of.
     
  15. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Jesus.

    You are arguing against yourself here.
     
  16. Jimmycloutnail

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    No I’m replying to you but youve got nothing
     
  17. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    So why are you wasting time then.

    Why not just say you didnt really understand this subject at the beginning of this thread.

    And that now you do.
     
  18. Jimmycloutnail

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    My god.

    You are now arguing against yourself.

    At the beginning you reckoned he could leave her stateless. As in no citizenship anywhere

    Now you are saying he revoked her citizenship precisely because he wasnt going to leave her statelesss as she has Bangladeshi citizenship.[/QUOTE]

    Do you think There is a high chance she may hold dual citizenship?
     
  19. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    What do you mean I have nothing?

    You are now agreeing with what I said initially.

    That Javid is not allowed to leave someone stateless.
     
  20. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Do you think There is a high chance she may hold dual citizenship?[/QUOTE]

    At present she doesnt.
     

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