Shamima Begum

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Jimmycloutnail said:
There are plenty of British citizens including children around the world and even in the uk who are in need government intervention unfortunately this child was born to the wrong people at the wrong time, as were the other 2 of her previous children. its only this child your upset about? How about the children of the soldiers that would risk to the lives To extract the said child, it’s not that people are heartless about the death of a baby it’s just they are pragmatic about it, thousands of children die every day and a lot due to poverty so we can have cheap S*** so don’t start virtue signaling about a child that died due to a woman’s poor choices
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All whataboutery.

How is wanting the UK government to stick up for a vulnerable UK citizen virtue signalling.

The only virtue signalling going on is by Javid and his little fanclub of supporters like you.
 
dinkydo said:
I am replying to your assertion that women were non combatants, well events have proved that they certainly are, welcome to equality (I blame Pankhurst :))
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Are non combatants?
Don't you like equality?
Trevor the troll liked this so morally you're obviously on a sticky wicket.
 
goldenboy said:
All whataboutery.

How is wanting the UK government to stick up for a vulnerable UK citizen virtue signalling.

The only virtue signalling going on is by Javid and his little fanclub of supporters like you.
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No what you are doing is taking the death of a child and using to show you somehow have the moral high ground, and that on itself is pretty pathetic.

Little fan club? I’m not a supporter of mr Javid in the main, but you must have seen public opinion on this was 80% in favour of his decision, she is not the only person to have there citizenship removed over 100 other some with children also have the same fate due to there actions. Actions like leaving to go and join a extremist organisation, having children during a conflict and condemning all 3 of those kids to death they never had a chance yet she didn’t care? Is all her and her terrorist husbands doing so blaming Javid for the death of the kids is just pure fantasy
 
So Javid didn't make a reasoned decision but went with public opinion?
 
You can assert that Begum knew her child was going to die before he was born and then complain abour a statement being inappropriate o_Oo_Oo_O
 
Jimmycloutnail said:
How about the reasoned decision just happened to have the same outcome as public opinion? The same decision that has been taken on over 100 other cases that the public weren’t aware of
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Or the over 400 male combatants that have been allowed back.
 
RolandK said:
Very inappropriate rant!
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I'd say that he felt it was very appropriate to him. 'Using' a strawman argument as a response is an all too common reply when he can't think of anything meaningful to say.
'Using' is perhaps the wrong word to apply though, as he is clearly unaware what 'virtue signalling' is, I doubt he has any idea what a 'strawman fallacy' is either.
 
RolandK said:
You're taking it out of context. Read the whole post again.
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I have read it several times and it doesn't get any less despicable.
Only knew about the death after it happened, alleged children, smelling a rat.
If I have missread this then please explain what you meant to say.
 
longboat said:
I'd say that he felt it was very appropriate to him. 'Using' a strawman argument as a response is an all too common reply when he can't think of anything meaningful to say.
'Using' is perhaps the wrong word to apply though, as he is clearly unaware what 'virtue signalling' is, I doubt he has any idea what a 'strawman fallacy' is either.
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Trevor the troll has decided to join in again.
 
Jimmycloutnail said:
No what you are doing is taking the death of a child and using to show you somehow have the moral high ground, and that on itself is pretty pathetic.

Little fan club? I’m not a supporter of mr Javid in the main, but you must have seen public opinion on this was 80% in favour of his decision, she is not the only person to have there citizenship removed over 100 other some with children also have the same fate due to there actions. Actions like leaving to go and join a extremist organisation, having children during a conflict and condemning all 3 of those kids to death they never had a chance yet she didn’t care? Is all her and her terrorist husbands doing so blaming Javid for the death of the kids is just pure fantasy
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Sounds very much like you are a paid up cheerleader for him.

Can you provide any evidence to back up your claim that 80% support Javid?
 
goldenboy said:
Sounds very much like you are a paid up cheerleader for him.

Can you provide any evidence to back up your claim that 80% support Javid?
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I can assure you I’m not a paid up member to any of the s*** shower political party’s in this country, but even if i was would that be an issue? Do you refuse to enter into discussion with conservatives? I bet they pay a good % of your wages! Mainly polling conducted durning the time he made the decision but by the looks of this forum it about 95%
 
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