Smell in 2 out of 3 bathrooms

lukef99

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Hi
I have this issue in my house where the main bathroom upstairs, and the downstairs toilet, both have a strange unpleasant smell, I'm assuming sewer-y. The en-suite is fine, although the previous owners did some dodgy renovation and behind the vanity unit is a massive hole in the wall into the cavity where I'm assuming the old toilets waste that was there went into, and it does have an odd smell coming from there but it smells different. They are in different soil stacks - the en-suite and the downstairs toilet share one, and the main bathroom is on its own. I have changed both AAVs in the loft as a precaution but no difference. All drains have been cleaned and I cannot find any evidence of any traps evaporating. It's one of those ones where the smell isn't consistent, sometimes it doesn't smell sometimes it's strong, and I cannot locate a single source of smell by sniffing various areas, it just builds up in the rooms.

One thing I have noticed in the main bathroom is when the toilet is "used", you can hear the water that is being displaced from the trap running in I'm assuming a pipe either behind a wall or under the bath - is that normal? Does that indicate there is an air leak somewhere meaning you can hear it, and is also letting the smell out with it?

Does anyone have any ideas? It seems too coincidental to have 2 bathrooms sharing the same issue, but they are on totally seperate stacks so not sure how else it can be related? I am by no means a plumber..
 
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Sounds like your system is not correctly vented. Draw a sketch of your set up so that we could suggest a remedy. Sounds like using the c is pulling water out of the sink traps
 
Hi, see attached very rough sketch
Essentially a downstairs toilet and upstairs en suite that run off the same stack, a main bathroom that has a seperate stack, and then the kitchen that drains straight out through the floor. No idea on the drainage routing once out of the house, or where the stacks actually go out of the house.
Both stacks vent internally into the loft and have AAVs on top (see attached). When we moved in there was no AAV at all on the en-suite/toilet stack, which was causing obvious stench in the loft and condensation issues on the rafters/felt in that corner. So i bought one to fit and replaced the other while i was there - maybe it was off for a reason? There are plenty of roof vents with piping hanging down, should i ditch the AAVs and pipe up to the roof vents, if it is a ventilation issue? If so how do i extend the piling, can i just run flexi pipe over to where they are?
 

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