So how's Brexit going?

Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by chippie244, Mar 20, 2019.

  1. Heat

    Heat Well-Known Member

    It is just a silly lot of nonsense being contstantly repeated by some parties and people in their attempt at political gain or point scoring.
    To be completely fair to Remainers, some will be genuinely ignorant of NI and believe what they are told.

    The GFA says there has to be free travel (open border to an extent)
    It also states NI is part of U.K.
    That basically means no (hard) border but also no border therefore down Irish Sea.

    Fact is NO parties in NI want a hard border! (Begs the question why then the Irish PM and some EU leaders keep mentioning it, - other than a pretence concern to try to elevate their status)
     
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  2. longboat

    longboat Well-Known Member

    The GFA is at best a loosely worded agreement filled with many 'strive to', 'work towards', and 'try our best to's'.
    The entire document is all a bit woolly, but, at no point does it mention any need for a border free of customs regulation between the two governing states.
    As you say, its all a lot of nonsense thats been spouted out as a stumbling block for the UK leaving the EU.
    As long as there aren't any militarised border enforcements in place, then even leaving the, CU, has no effect on the agreement what so ever.
     
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  3. chippie244

    chippie244 Well-Known Member

    Well if you two say so it must be right. o_Oo_Oo_O
     
  4. longboat

    longboat Well-Known Member

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    We'd like to see the working out on that comment, chip's.?
    For example:
    Why you think they are wrong?
     
  5. chippie244

    chippie244 Well-Known Member

    I'm just suprised that the pair of you have time to work what with reading both those documents in full.
     
  6. Heat

    Heat Well-Known Member

    I am sure the Remainers politicians would have come up by now with anything that backs their claim, should it have existed regarding the GFA.
     
  7. chippie244

    chippie244 Well-Known Member

    So the complete paralysis of brexit due the backstop is a fantasy?
     
  8. Heat

    Heat Well-Known Member

    The backstop goes against the GFA and also potentially indefinitely would be against it.
    But this is where some people, plus the usual lot of anti Brits in Ireland have actually supported the backstop.

    However, if the backstop had been a guaranteed temporary solution, I think all sides would have agreed to it. EU wouldn’t negotiate a different wording to the backstop.
     
  9. longboat

    longboat Well-Known Member

    You don't need to read both documents 'in full' to understand that Brexit will not go against any legally binding arrangements as agreed to in the GFA.
    I did say earlier that 'The Belfast agreement' legislative document is woolly at best.
    You could say that the 'vagueness' of it opens up corridors of interpretation regarding the legitimacy of border controls between Ireland, and Northern Ireland.
    You'd be wrong to do so howether, as the agreements only mention of border controls is quite uncharacteristically precise on the matter, and states that militarised border crossings/check points are forbidden. No mention of trade related checks whatsoever.
     
  10. chippie244

    chippie244 Well-Known Member

    I'm glad you've done your homework, or someone has done it for you.
    Who did radicalise you?
     
  11. longboat

    longboat Well-Known Member

    You haven't read it. Ya jus couldnay be bothad, Boab.
     
  12. chippie244

    chippie244 Well-Known Member

    Who did radicalise you?
     

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