Socket under sink..

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Camerabloke-02, Jul 13, 2019.

  1. Camerabloke-02

    Camerabloke-02 New Member

    I'm staying in a flat at the moment which has got a comprehensive water filter system under the sink.

    The water outlet for the filter system is directly above the electrical socket for the Dishwasher. Ie ie about 10cm above and if you disconnected the pipe without turning off the water it would gush onto the socket.

    The flats been recently done up and the consumer unit is metal with RCD/MCD's suggesting the electrics were done in the past year or so if I remember rightly (I'm not a spark but doing up my house at the moment, in conversations with the builders I understand the regs now stipulate metal consumer units).

    Surely this isn't safe is it?
     
  2. Coloumb

    Coloumb Well-Known Member

    Why would you disconnect the pipe without turning the water off?
     
  3. Camerabloke-02

    Camerabloke-02 New Member

    Only if you were a loony obviously but weirder things have happened... Or the joint starts to leak. It just seems odd to me to put a socket under the sink in such a way.
     
  4. peter palmer

    peter palmer Well-Known Member

    I've got some downlights in my kitchen ceiling, a couple are right under the bath. Do you think I'm best removing them?
     
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  5. Hfs

    Hfs Member

    The socket should be installed suitable to its environment...Not likely to be splashed etc under normal circumstances.
     
  6. Camerabloke-02

    Camerabloke-02 New Member

    So this is OK?
     

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  7. Hfs

    Hfs Member

    Not ideal but yes it’s fine as far as regs go in regards to it’s location... The lack of strain relief on the cable feeding said socket would be picked up on a report...Nothing a few clips wouldn’t sort out.
     
  8. peter palmer

    peter palmer Well-Known Member

    Location looks fine, done it like that many many times. Wiring looks iffy though.
     
  9. peter palmer

    peter palmer Well-Known Member

    Also the electrics getting a bit wet doesn't mean certain death for everyone in the kitchen. If it gets wet let it dry out.
     
  10. Rulland

    Rulland Well-Known Member

    Where does one draw the line, not build a house because it could burn down?.
     
  11. xednim

    xednim Active Member

    not sure what reg's says about it but replace the switch with external IP65 or so rated and will be safe
    btw RCD will save you anyway- eventual short electrical giggling to your body but no kill- unless you have hart problems or electronic gadget build in
     
  12. Coloumb

    Coloumb Well-Known Member

    Whats the thing in the circle?
     

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  13. xednim

    xednim Active Member

    lime scale filter, common on those days WM/DW
     
  14. Wayners

    Wayners Well-Known Member

    Seen the house fuse box under kitchen sink a few years ago.. Would of posted a picture on this forum had I been here then.
     
  15. Woloumbo

    Woloumbo Member

    the dishwasher solenoid.
     
  16. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Well-Known Member

    ‘Thing’ in the circle is known as an ‘Aqua Stop’

    Supplied with several brands of washing machines and dishwashers, Bosch, Neff, etc

    It’s the cold feed hose to machine contained within an outer sleeve with wires running along it

    If feed hose splits or leaks this will be detected and water contained within outer hose

    Solenoid within the box part then cuts water off to machine

    Don’t know how common split hoses are these days but Aqua Stop supplied as standard to many appliances, although you can connect machine with a regular hose, nothing fancy :)
     
  17. Woloumbo

    Woloumbo Member

    its just an inlet solenoid to fill the machine.the cables open the solenoid when the dishwasher asks to fill.
    the cables are contained in the outer pipe to contain them.the outer pipe isnt to catch leaks.the solenoid is placed at the start of the pipe,which does prevent the supply hose being pressurised at all times.
     
  18. unphased

    unphased Screwfix Select

    Cable entry to the socket needs pushing in as there should be no basic insulation exposed outside the socket.
     
  19. robertpstubbs

    robertpstubbs Well-Known Member

    Also maybe use a grommet or gland, but it would only make a minimal difference.
     
  20. unphased

    unphased Screwfix Select

    You can't use a grommet or gland on that type of accessory its too brittle. The cable entry would be a knock out slot that's just tapped out. To be tidy a length of mini-trunking wouldn't be a bad idea either.
     

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