Soooooooo,

No 'might' about it.

 

No Jack, I wouldn't want to see the UK descend to where Germany will be in a couple of years time.

 

Or Jack, and think about this seriously for a minute, I know you might find that difficult.
We could simply tell them to **** off and revert to WTO trading rules. It will be more of a hardship for them than us.
Really Jack, relax, it will all turn out fine, even for public servants.

 

I think it's high time we all started to effectionately refer to these two with a more appropriate moniker.
DA, should be, 'Joyce'.
And, JoT, can be, William.

Very good.

 

Not exactly. You tell me they have to agree between themselves what they want to achieve and then, and only then can we start negotiating?? Hmmm What about we start by telling them what we want to achieve first? Then they can sit together and discuss this? Surely this is the true spirit of negotiation, not them dictating to us when we can start negotiating with them? Someone has to start somewhere Jack, why can't it be us that starts the negotiating? Ohh I forgot, your beloved EU doesn't allow a mere member to start negotiations on their own do they? (dictatorship again) If we're leaving, we should not be bound by their dictatorial ways right from the start.

 

Then you need to think harder, better still, do some research, like others on here, I simply can't be arsed to explain everything to you in terms a small child might understand.

Yes it's fine, under Blair public sector pay grew to OBSCENE levels, ten years, maybe more capped at zero MIGHT just bring it back to the level it deserves to be, which historically was a few percent below private sector to compensate for the benefits such as final salary pension, plus sick leave at double the private sector levels, and a few months off each year for 'stress' thrown in for good measure.

 

I stumbled upon this. It's an article about what may happen if trade goes to WTO rules, presented on a Brexiters website. I'm not qualified to comment but it seems interesting:

http://leavehq.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=128

 

Tell me Jack,, what are MP's if they are not public servants? They should be given the exact same % rise as any other public servant. They should not have expenses paid for living in hotels, whilst they have second homes within the capital. Stop them renting out second homes and claiming hotel costs. Any MP with a second home in London, should be automatically barred from being allowed to claim hotel costs. If MP's can claim travelling expenses to and from work, then all public servants , should be entitled to claim for travelling to and from work. If MP's claim for meals, then all other public servants should also be entitled to claim for meals, whilst at work.
I'd go further and say that Jeremy Hunt,(so called Minister for Health) should be made to work for three months in the NHS, so he gets an idea of the pressures faced by NHS staff (whilst being paid the same wage NHS staff earn) Give him a few weeks on a surgical ward, a few weeks as a porter, a few weeks on a dementia ward, a few weeks in A&E a few weeks on A&E reception, a few weeks on a Macmillan ward and a few weeks working on an acute ward. All 12.5 hr shifts, including night shifts and weekends. At least if it does nothing else, it would open his bloody eyes.

 

Good grief man, wto would probably mean a 3-5% tarrif at most, currency fluctuations in any year can mean a 10% difference. You do realise we're
not in the Euro, we have a different currency, you do realise that don't you?

How do we need the EU more than us? we import more from them, that makes them more dependant on us surely, you must understand basic sums, William.

 

Like Jimmy Saville?