Sugar Soap a Stippled Ceiling

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  1. TheCrow

    TheCrow New Member

    Hello there

    Is anyone able to offer any advice on how to sugar soap a stippled ceiling. The ceiling itself covers a an L-shaped lounge, kitchen and diner and is not particularly dirty, just discoloured with age, but given that I had sugar soaped the walls ready for painting I thought I'd do the ceiling for completeness.

    I was thinking of using a roller to apply the sugar soap but would be unable to wipe it as it's very gritty and sharp.

    Any ideas, or is it one of those jobs that just cannot be done?

    Thank you for taking the time to read.
     
  2. KIAB

    KIAB Well-Known Member

    Easier to overboard with 9.5mm plasterboard & skim.:)
     
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  3. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Well-Known Member

    Soft bristle broom and bucket of sugar soap solution will do the job - easy peasy :)

    May be wise to wear safety goggles / swimming goggles / rubber gloves / as know sug soap can be an irritant to sensitive skin so droplets in the eyeball..... probably not recommended :eek:
     
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  4. Astramax

    Astramax Well-Known Member

    Protect your eyes!...................forget sugar soap if it's not particularly dirty use Flash diluted in hot water plus safer on the eye balls.. ;)
     
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  5. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Well-Known Member


    As my post above. :rolleyes:

    Safety / swimming goggles and gloves

    Very hot on PPE I am, don’t take chances
     
  6. Wayners

    Wayners Well-Known Member

    Any cleaner will do with warm water. Sugar soap is a naff product... It's a chemical cleaner that don't leave soap behind so paint sticks, but a second wipe over with clean water dose the same, plus I've never been impressed with it vs off the shelf supermarket cleaners
     
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  7. Astramax

    Astramax Well-Known Member

    You added that to your post after my posting..................sneaky Mr Easy Peasy :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:...then again I was always on the ball with PPE and risk assessment associated with my trade.
     
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  8. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Well-Known Member

    :oops:

    Ha ha yep I did edit as an afterthought, look at the times, both at 7.12 ..... we must have been thinking of each other :oops:

    I have a nightmare at work from time to time with kitchen porters not wearing full PPE whilst cleaning ovens with some pretty nasty, heavy duty corrosive chemicals

    Even though their safety record cards are up to date and COSHH training completed and a cupboard full of PPE, some just think they’re impervious to splashing and breathing in dangerous chemicals - bluddy madness followed by a written warning in most cases
     
  9. TheCrow

    TheCrow New Member

    Great idea, thanks for that.
     
  10. ajohn

    ajohn Well-Known Member

    If it's an artex ceiling I suspect you may find that you will wreck it unless well covered in paint already and maybe even then. May be problems with paper as well - best way to strip it is with water, sugar soap would probably help.

    I'd say why bother having emulsioned a ceiling a number of times. Good brush over to remove dust etc and then do it. 2 coats are normally needed how ever it's done or try and put it on thickly and then find down to odd areas it needs another anyway. Best concentrate on keeping both coats even ;) or find you need a 3rd.

    Sugar soap is for woodwork but much better to sand it, ideally wet as it prevents the paper from clogging. It's what wet and dry is for.

    John
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  11. KIAB

    KIAB Well-Known Member

    OVERBOARD IT.:)
     
  12. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Well-Known Member


    It’s a stippled ceiling that needs a fresh lick of paint, partially kitchen
    area so may have a little greasy film due to cooking- that’s it - should be simple

    What’s all that about stripping ceiling and sanding with wet and dry paper ?

    Talk about over complicating a simple task ..... will you be supplying a quote to strip and sand ceiling perhaps when all it needs is a wipe over and lash on the emulsion

    Or ...... what have I missed ? o_O
     
  13. ajohn

    ajohn Well-Known Member

    Something silly - what sugar soap is often used for - paintwork, mentioning that sanding is more effective and better still if wet.

    John
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  14. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Well-Known Member


    Why though ?

    All the op wants to do is give it a fresh lick of paint

    Yeah, stipple finish may not be everyone’s personal favourite but all it needs (assuming ceiling is in ok condition) is a wipe over (kitchen area, possible greasy film on ceiling) and 1/2 coats of emulsion

    All this talk of overboarding / stripping ceiling (not ur post Kiab) / is like taking a sledgehammer to crack a walnut

    Imagine a homeowner getting a decorator round to quote on painting this ceiling and the geezer starts by saying ...... ‘needs overboarding or stripping back as can’t simply be prepped and painted’

    Your either gonna show the bloke the door pronto fashion or get ready to be shafted

    Sorry guys but that’s how this advice seems to me
     
  15. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Well-Known Member

    No worries mate, works well for me, may drip a bit but depending on what’s on the floor, can always cover with dust sheets and/or polythene to protect carpets if in place

    Always use a dry, clean soft broom to brush down ceilings prior to painting. Generally ceilings don’t need washing down (unless kitchen or smokers in house ) but brush down to remove dust makes sense
     
  16. Astramax

    Astramax Well-Known Member

    ..................should of finished the whole house by now!:cool:
     
  17. Astramax

    Astramax Well-Known Member

    Stippled finish is an Artex or Artex like material pattern not a textured paper, so washing over a pre painted kitchen ceiling with sugar soap would be recommended to remove associated cooking contaminates such as cooking fats would be best advised and rinsing off prior to painting.
     

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