Taking the Heat out of an argument about N.I.

The ex mp he listens to is a europhile he also wanted to send troops into yugoslavia and was chair of the left wing fabian society.

 

So your previous post:

Is rather silly, isn't it?
I do hope you agree.

 

It's beyond silly longs, way beyond silly.

 

I am back to challenge you again, Allsorts.
I agree my last posts within posts were beginning to get too long, so I will break up your replies.

I had said, - ["I am also asking how the peace is supposed to be under threat from Brexit, given the fact that the division has already been going on BEFORE the Brexit vote?"]

Your answer Allsorts was, -

“I am utterly gob-smacked that you - a person who lives in NI and who has presumably seen the effects of the 'Troubles' - can ask such a question. The 'Irish border' question has been one of the largest topics of discussion in the (quality) media over the past month or so. And yet you profess ignorance of the 'concern'? Jesus Christ.”

Allsorts please read my words again (at top of this post).
I asked how peace is supposedly under threat from Brexit. (You did not answer that.)
On none of my wording did I say I was unaware of the “Irish border (EU) question” or the fact it is in the media.
I did NOT profess “ignorance of the concern”, but rather I have concern about the ignorance. That is, the ignorance of any MP who says the peace is threatened, (that is if they really believe that of course).

Anyhow, back to my question, -
How is the peace in NI under threat from Brexit? (Also - Who would be involved in violence?)

 

'Deranged' is, without a doubt, more appropriate if applied to what someone looking in for the first time would conclude upon witnessing such drivel, I'd like to think that given his track record of saying 'anything' that fits his agenda (whilst knowing it to be untrue) can simply be regarded as silly.
But then on the other hand, it's quite clearly dangerous silliness, because some dim witted individuals will believe it.

Say something, anything, it doest matter one 'jot' how silly it is.
Plenty will, non the less believe it.

When is the, Labour party conference due to start?

 

Reminds me of years ago when me and some mates went to Blackpool for the weekend. Thought we’d try the Winter Gardens as there’s usually some music or comedians on. Got there to find the Labour Party Conference on. ( at least I was right about the comedians)

 

MS I just know you’re going to be gone tomorrow, but I’m in stitches here. The missus thinks I’m mad, but I do find your posts extremely amusing. Keep up the good work, but don’t forget to set your alarm clock for 5am in the morning. Those shelf’s at Sainsburys are not gonna fill themselves.

 

That's tragic.

 

Yep, went from there to the Manchester pub on the Promenade. Great night.

 

Sorry Allsorts, but I just have to repost your reply to what was my next statement,

I had said
["....And I still see no threat to the peace other than the usual dissident republicans" ]

Allsorts replied, -

That's the only threat you see - the diss' Republicans. My gawd, you are so 'stuck'. All you had to do was to end that sentence with "...other than the usual dissidents." and I'd have some agreement with you to some point. But, no - in your mind it's only the Republicans! Sadly, in either case, these 'usual dissidents' - on both sides - are chomping at the bit for an excuse to get stuck in again. That's from bothsides, you understand?

Absolute nonsense Allsorts!
I have to say you have made a right mess of that!

Here are a few basic facts for you Allsorts, -

Dissident republicans are the ONLY dissident groups to exist in NI.
NO opposing similar groups exist.
Groups or individuals with access to weapons are not all to be confused with the label Dissident.
Dissident (Republicans) have carried out terrorist murderers and attempted murders and bombings both before and after Brexit. (Without retaliation from any other group I must add, - which probably tells you something?).
Dissident threat is currently a high risk. (Local information)

Therefore my statement saying I see no threat to peace other than the Republican Dissidents, is the truth and I believe all sides would say the same.
If I had have only used the word, ‘Dissidents’, surely that would be misleading to a reader with little knowledge?
The media in Northern Ireland generally use the full term ‘Dissident Republicans’.
Terrorist threat is just from that side.

 

DA, you’re getting Sovereignty mixed up with respect for other countries and their laws / customs. If you go to Thailand on holiday, do you obey local laws or obey British laws? If you went there and broke their laws, you wouldn’t expect to be tried under British laws would you ?
Just because Britain manufactures things for other countries and produces them to the standards expected by the customer there, no loss of Sovereignty can surely be implied ?

 

Not at all DA, just pointing out what you wrote there.