Taking the Heat out of an argument about N.I.

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Oooooh, watch out, heat. You've really gone and upset him now, what with your reasonableness and all. The slanderous claims are coming thick and fast, as is quite typical of him and his ilk when cornered.
I'd love to see you locate one single slanderous claim.
 
That is also how I see it.
The EU have been acting as if they are paying us and we owe them something.
I think a lot of those who voted remain will be less happy with the EU.
It is all to do with money IMO and as I have previously said, if the U.K. had been one of the EU members who DO NOT contribute to the EU, then we would have full cooperation from the EU when leaving.
Am sure Allsorts will agree with all that I have said above, despite being in support of remaining

Instead of addressing the unavoidable issue that your daft Leave vote is back-firing on you by almost certainly helping to lead to the reunification of Ireland, you latch on to the most pitiful of pitiful Leave cries; "The EU is being so UNREASONABLE!"

"The EU have been acting as if they are paying us and we owe them something." That is jaw-dropping in its petulance. Why don't you add the - again undeniable - truth that the UK is acting as if they are owed something special by the EU? Hell, the darned way the EU have held us back and only allowed us to become the 5th largest economy in the world! (Was the 5th...)

"It is all to do with money..." you opine. Only an ignoramus, who hasn't the slightest grasp of the what the EU is about, would say such a shallow thing.

Is that really the grasp of your knowledge of this! If so, no wonder you voted the way you did. And no wonder you haven't a clue what's happening on your own wee isle, and what your clumsy steps are doing to it.

Shocking ignorance, Heat.
 
I take it from this reply then, that you have all the answers? How convenient when someone replies to many of your posts, your stock reply is this usual “ What a cop out”. Someone said earlier that you’re a bully. I fully agree with that statement. You belittle anyone with a differing viewpoint.
Enough said.
Of course you'd say that, JJ. You have nothing to contribute of value.

And of all the hypocritical things to say. Enjoy your little rants at my expense over at Tom's? You really thought you had a captive audience of side-kicks and could claim what you wanted - yes? Would you like me to repost them on here? Slimy claims about my teaching career?

How low. How 'Leave'.

You have nothing to add, so do us all a favour - let go of the u-s's coat-tails.
 
There's one thing about DA's posts, they are a hoot without him intending. I can visualise him frantically pounding his keyboard, red faced and foaming at the mouth, the only thing that will calm him down is if Wotsername Miller pops up in the media. Even she seems to have run out of steam recently or maybe she's keeping a low profile because she found out that DA is in love with her and he may turn up at her house.

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Strange indeed.
Not even his, 'Captain Flint' gives so much as a twitter of encouragement.
I'm going to start 'liking' some of his posts from now on, especially the totally cuckoo, Guardian inspired attempts at reason we are all accustomed to.

Just to show him that the alt-right do posses a sense of empathy.:)
Are you with me, Filly?

Lol...

So, nothing of value to contribute?
 
Why are the EU against the U.K. leaving them then?
What does the U.K. do for the EU that they want to keep us?
Is it that they think it will destabilise the EU?
Or is it basically financial loss to them?
 
Of course you'd say that, JJ. You have nothing to contribute of value.

And of all the hypocritical things to say. Enjoy your little rants at my expense over at Tom's? You really thought you had a captive audience of side-kicks and could claim what you wanted - yes? Would you like me to repost them on here? Slimy claims about my teaching career?

How low. How 'Leave'.

You have nothing to add, so do us all a favour - let go of the u-s's coat-tails.
Typical bullying, belittling reply from you DA. You only have to look in the mirror to see someone who has very little to offer to many threads on this forum ( apart from the benefits of using masonry paint wherever possible )
 
Hell, the darned way the EU have held us back and only allowed us to become the 5th largest economy in the world! (Was the 5th...)

We've discussed this before, we were the fifth largest economy BEFORE we joined the EU. I do expect that to change in the coming years, I don't expect that to be a revision downwards.
 
Wow, that was all very enlightening.

Heat won't look at impartial research. At all. Simply will not engage with it. It's all biased. Heat thinks it's all about money. Heat is adamant he'll vote the same way again - except this time the pressure of the pencil will likely tear the ballot paper. Heat doesn't address valid political issues, but goes nah-nah-nah.

And his side-kicks manage even less; their contributions would make a nursery playground blush with its juvenility.

And these are the guys who vote 'Leave'.

Thank gawd they ain't Remainers 'cos I'd really worry.
 
Wow, that was all very enlightening.

Heat won't look at impartial research. At all. Simply will not engage with it. It's all biased. Heat thinks it's all about money. Heat is adamant he'll vote the same way again - except this time the pressure of the pencil will likely tear the ballot paper. Heat doesn't address valid political issues, but goes nah-nah-nah.

And his side-kicks manage even less; their contributions would make a nursery playground blush with its juvenility.

And these are the guys who vote 'Leave'.

Thank gawd they ain't Remainers 'cos I'd really worry.

More glibisms.
 
Would you like me to repost them on here? Slimy claims about my teaching career?
What? The simple statement that says “ We know why DA left his teaching job.” I honestly thought you’d retired ( unless your mind is reading some hidden meaning into this). Repost away DA.
 
Typical bullying, belittling reply from you DA. You only have to look in the mirror to see someone who has very little to offer to many threads on this forum ( apart from the benefits of using masonry paint wherever possible )

"He's obviously ashamed of being banned off his favourite forum and has now resorted to downright lies. How sad he would stoop so low as to tell my favourite plumber untruths." I didn't. I told Tom the complete truth. The truth is I asked to leave this forum. My old posts are all still there. SFPete knows - always did - who I am, then and now.

"Nah, Dev's is the sort who would claim the white chap was beaten up because he's so obviously racist and deserved it . I mean he's white for starters, probably voted to leave the EU and belongs to Britain First or the EDL, what more evidence do you need. The Muzzie youths were simply relieving themselves of all that pent up anger, so that's alright then. Yep, move along ,, nothing to see folks." Nuts.

"Towards the end of his tenure on SF he really started to dish out a lot of abuse towards certain members. some veiled , some just downright plain and in yer face." You'll have examples? The one 'personal abuse' ban was for me referring - quite deservedly - to Deleted member 11267 as being summat. Which he is. (Oops - it was two bans - because I repeated it on my return... :rolleyes: )

"He's convinced that all people who voted to leave the EU are racist to the extent that was the only reason people voted to leave." I've kinda brought the u-s up on that wee fib more than 5 times. When they run out of arguments, honest or otherwise, flinging mud is pretty much all they have left.

"We all know why DA left his last school too
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" Would you care to put that in to words?


There you go, JJ. Still want to claim I'm the lying bully?

Good.
 
What? The simple statement that says “ We know why DA left his teaching job.” I honestly thought you’d retired ( unless your mind is reading some hidden meaning into this). Repost away DA.

Sorry I didn't wait for your permission.

"Shhhhhhhhhhh! DA left his job because he retired. Shhhh - whisper it everyone."

Too slimy, JJ. Just too slimy.
 
DA, Tom wrote on that same thread claiming you emailed him/ contacted him saying “ You are not “ Deleted Member 33931” Toms own words on the thread “Devs tells me that he is not the ' deleted member', and i believe him,” Are you going to tell me that Tom is lying ? Best nip over there before someone else tells him you think he’s a liar.
 
Why are the EU against the U.K. leaving them then?
What does the U.K. do for the EU that they want to keep us?
Is it that they think it will destabilise the EU?
Or is it basically financial loss to them?

Assuming you are honestly looking for an honest answer, Heat, I shall try and suggest other valid reasons.

The first is, indeed, the increased wealth by all members by having free trade access to 500 million customers, and all done with the highest regard and standards of quality and safety. (You can kiss both of these away when the UK becomes desperate to trade with any other country who'll now have us over a barrel.)

The best shared values, often influenced or instigated by the UK - because we are bludy awesome, you know. We are a country that the world looks up to for decency, human rights, free press, fair mindedness, equal rights - common bludy sense.

The shared desire to influence other surrounding countries to show them the better way forward, away from communism, dictatorships and despots. (How ironic). Yes, part of this will be financial incentives, and the UK - as one of the wealthiest members - will and should be paying more than many other much poorer countries. It's a long gameplan - this is about getting as many countries as possible to work closely together, sharing the best values, economic growth and security. Isolationism and insularity has been shown historically to not work. Freedom ov movement - where would you like to live, work and retire Heat? (How about that wonderful EU country called the Republic of Ireland, because you may just have sealed your own 'fate'...)

You know what? The economic benefits of membership are almost the least of it to me. It's all about values, quite simply the sort of world I want us all to be heading towards. Cooperation and mutual benefits.

And that's as far away from Trump's values as possible.
 
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