The time has come to cut taxes!

Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by Astramax, Nov 20, 2023.

  1. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    Must be a general election coming soon? ....:cool::rolleyes:...different day same old carp.
     
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  2. JOMEL

    JOMEL Screwfix Select

    Well I am 90 this Monday ( what happend to the last 50 years )
    Yes I have an NHS pension that I payed into for circa 30 years but it was compulsory
    I could of done with that 6.5% payment when the kids were young
    I worked for 45 years and 5 weeks in total
    The OAP is added to my private one.
    I pay tax on the total amount.
    And now pay for my TV antenna
    Just seems a bit unfair.
    But thats my opinion.
    I admit its better that having to scrounge from the system.
    So maybe I can class myself as lucky

    Johnny M
     
  3. stevie22

    stevie22 Screwfix Select

    Let me be the first to wish you a very happy birthday Johnny.
     
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  4. The Happy Builder

    The Happy Builder Screwfix Select

    Ending the automatic free TV licence for older people, many of whom have mobility issues and in many instances live alone, was a nasty move by this Government withdrawing a benefit from those who are also facing financial hardships after over ten years of retirement.
     
  5. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    @JOMEL....you have forgotten the £500 cold weather payment we get, the £10 pension bonus we get for Christmas, bus pass and free medical prescriptions. ;)...my track record was 50 years 3 months and 5 days.:rolleyes:
     
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    It was not the Government that stopped the free licence, it was the BBC.
     
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  7. FlyByNight

    FlyByNight Screwfix Select

    Not quite. They were funded by the government until 2015 who then forced it onto the BBC. The BBC then decided it could not afford to cover the costs so they then scapped it, so it reallity it was the Government.
     
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  8. Sparkielev

    Sparkielev Screwfix Select

    We get our wages pay tax on it
    Out of said wages you fill up the vehicle pay tax on that
    You go shopping for food pay tax
    Book a holiday pay tax
    Any pension pay tax on it
    Go for a drink pay tax
    We work to pay tax
     
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  10. JOMEL

    JOMEL Screwfix Select

    Hi Astra
    Point taken
    It just feels tight .
    I chat with 2 guys on tills in ASDA
    70/73 retired but need to keep some income,
    It should not get to this.
    Bye the way guys I only drink a good MALT WHISKY
    Well I have to spend my OAP on some thing.
    Or it will just collect in the bank Smiles .

    Keep going boys,


    Johnny M
     
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  11. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    Got around that tax trap...........eat little, lose weight and buy kiddies clothes from the Man at Mothercare range, no VAT. ;)
     
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  12. The Happy Builder

    The Happy Builder Screwfix Select

    from your linked document:

    “The level of the fee is set by Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport after consultation with the BBC. A key element of the licence fee settlement, announced in July 2015, was that the BBC would take over funding free licences for the over-75s.”

    The Government paid the licence fee for older people and sets the fee that the BBC can charge, if the Government had carried on paying the licence fee then presumably the fees would have not increased so much for everyone, utter regardless of if they had a free licence or not.

    To be honest virtually everyone was stitched up, the fees went up for everyone and the older people lost their free licences as well.
     
  13. Muzungu

    Muzungu Screwfix Select

    I suppose the problem with handing out money to pensioners without any reference to their actual needs is unfair.

    I have 43 years in a private defined pension, remember them! Then took early retirement at 60 with a lump sum and full local government pension despite going early. They just happened to be looking for people to go and I jumped at it.

    8 years later am probably better off than I have ever been as my outgoings are minimal. House paid off years ago. The £500 winter fuel payment is just an unneeded bonus. Colleague of mine of the same age with same sort of work history opted out of the private pension scheme and she's on her uppers and will be working well past her pension age. She could have gone at the same time as me but couldn't afford to.

    Can't say I planned it this way, it just worked out for me. Just using this as an example as to how two people of similar age and work history can end up in a totally different situation.
     
  14. The Happy Builder

    The Happy Builder Screwfix Select

    Pensioners have near million pound pension pots having worked all their lives for large companies, but they genuinely are in the minority.

    Some pensioners can also sell a home in the South of England then buy a magnificent retirement home elsewhere, often just by selling a former Council house or flat that they moved into as a tenant, but again that doesn’t happen in all of the regions within the UK.
     
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  15. RegB

    RegB Active Member

    Quite. Now, with the level of debt we have, that should be reduced first. Every household knows this.
     
  16. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    Lets start with the £5000000 per day! ......per chance?
     
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    Think you are underestimating there Astra, more like 7 million a day that is just for hotels.
    That along with foreign aid needs to stop.
     
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  18. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select

    Definitely all driven by the political need of an election next year. The only fault I see to Hunt's plan is that most of the tax breaks will go to those who are most likely to vote Conservative, surely it's the 'floating voter' that must be attracted. But then I am not a clever politician.
     
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  19. quasar9

    quasar9 Screwfix Select

    That’s the government! The local councils, you pay council tax, parking fees but it’s not enough for them as every disingenuous method to gather more money from motorist is employed.
     
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  20. quasar9

    quasar9 Screwfix Select

    Not taking a partisan line here, but for the current government, it’s now a case of stoping the hemmorage of swing voters , so an attempt at retention, much like companies that offer you discounts at renewal . Labour never great at managing the economy, have traditionally come into power when treasury coffers are full. Now the coffers are largely empty and perhaps Hunt is trying to flush out what remains so he can return the famous note to its owners that read “there is nothing in the kitty” !
     
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