Toms top tips from than award :-)

Discussion in 'Plumbers' Talk' started by Copper Dragon, Feb 21, 2010.

  1. Itandje

    Itandje New Member

    PS

    Regarding the pressure test using the Halford's car foot pump, mentioned on the previous page. I had hoped one of the resident dummies would challenge me on using an air pump for a 15 bar pressure test, but they seem to have missed that one.


    You seem to have missed this one :

    Some years ago I used a cheap Halfords foot pump to pressure test an air compressor receiver; the receiver's working pressure was 10 bar, so I probably pumped it up to 15 bar.

    This I simply do not believe.


    ...and that one:


    He talks of going to 10 bar, most footpumps are easily capable of this.

    Don't think so mush, 10 bar with a footpump, most of them are falling apart if you get anywhere near 3.


    Now you're telling us you used it with a liquid as opposed to a gas. Which makes it about as relevant to this thread as the exploding superheated lorry tyre you previously brought up. Or don't you know anything about hydraulic effects. I suggest you go away and read some more of your books.
     
  2. tomplum

    tomplum Active Member

    ok let me see if i' reading this correct,

    theres this guy testing a commpressor reciever with a footpump in a 10 gallon header tank, so presumable he needs one foot on the floor and the other is pumping ( and slashing) the footpump up to 15 bar, i have a mental image of a geezer in a white coat with thick rim glasses and wellies, * wet through and casping for breath after 20 minuters of pumping,
    no wonder they keep lockin you up walter,

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  3. Dick Puller

    Dick Puller New Member

    :^O :^O :^O
     
  4. Nirdam

    Nirdam New Member

    This is quite hilarious indeed. No doubt he will be back with the "idiot" accusation.
    Pots, kettle, black...............me thinks. LOL
     
  5. Teuchter

    Teuchter New Member

    Onetap's insults are a lot better than Mr Puller's...
     
  6. Onetap

    Onetap New Member

    " * wet through and casping
    for breath after 20 minuters of pumping,
    no wonder they keep lockin you up walter,"

    Tom, although I greatly admire your public spirited
    videos, it is apparent that, first, you haven't grasped this and second, you've never used a proper pressure test pump. You've got through your whole career and you've never done a pressure test. I'm impressed.

    Liquid is virtually incompressible; once you've got the air out of the system, you can pump it up to 10 bar with one or two strokes of the pump. Virtually no stored energy and so little/no hazard in the event of a burst, see? 10 seconds on the pump does it, it's easy to overdo it.

    It'd probably be best if you didn't do videos about pressure testing.
     
  7. tomplum

    tomplum Active Member

    well mr one tap or 1tap if you prefer, yes i have used a pressure pump on many occations, and i can tell you first hand,,20 minutes is not exacurateing the time it would take to test a average semi detached house with a rothengerg hand pumped bucket tester ,,though i do confess to not trying the 'footpump in a header tank' type that you seem to like so much, maby thats a faster method,
    but thank you for the complement of being public spirited, and i hope your brief holiday with us is both enjoyable and informative for you to banter about with your cell mates,
     
  8. Dick Puller

    Dick Puller New Member

    Onetap's insults are a lot better than Mr Puller's............Yes well, he's had more practice then my good self, cause everyone calls him a *!

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  9. Dick Puller

    Dick Puller New Member

    It'd probably be best if you didn't do videos about pressure testing.............How about you f4cking off like you said you would?
     
  10. Onetap

    Onetap New Member

    "Pressure test with air as you please, and let natural
    selection take its course! ;) "


    Good plan, Imran, but it assumes the Darwin award contenders have enough sense to get innocent women, children, animals and pot plants to retire to a safe distance. What they do in the privacy of their own sheds is of no concern, best not to go there.


    if they did they'd figure out how difficult
    it can be to find a leak with air!!


    Ultrasonic leak detector, the dogs' danglies.
    I've got one; an ultrasonic leak detector, that is.
     
  11. Dick Puller

    Dick Puller New Member

    What they do in the privacy of their own sheds is of no concern.................There you go Tom, that's the green light from the Great One.
     
  12. Onetap

    Onetap New Member

    " and i can tell you first hand,,20 minutes is not exacurateing the time it would take to test a average semi detached house with a rothengerg hand pumped bucket
    tester"


    You're doing something wrong, Tom. You need to isolate the expansion vessel. Or put water in the pump's tank. Where would the water shifted by 20 minutes of pumping go to?

    You've really never used one before.

    The footpump in a header tank was a necessary, but effective lash-up. I was a long, long way from any plant hire shops.
     
  13. tomplum

    tomplum Active Member

    yes the green light indeed, and on the credits to my yet unmade video will read

    no animals, children, women or poted plants where harmed during the making of this film.
    thank you .
     
  14. Onetap

    Onetap New Member

    Or melons.
     
  15. tomplum

    tomplum Active Member

    you really don't have a clue one/1tap, there is only pipework on a first fix test, no vessels no rads just pipework, and yes 20 minutes would be a fair amount of time to get to 10 bar, you'd probably need to fill the tester 3/4 times,
    where does the water go, LOL,,it commpress the air,,you listenin' now, so if the water is at 10 bar, and as you say its vertually noncompressional,,where's it go.
    work it out, then ask the warder if you can't
     
  16. palavaman

    palavaman Well-Known Member

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz yawn. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz more yawning:(P
     
  17. Onetap

    Onetap New Member

    " where does the water go, LOL,,it commpress the
    air,,you listenin' now, so if the water is at 10 bar,
    and as you say its vertually
    noncompressional,,where's it go."

    You need to get the air out, that's what you're doing wrong.
     
  18. tomplum

    tomplum Active Member

    you makin it up as you go now onetap :) like you did with the footpump in a header tank, cheeky monkey,

    conclusion, when you test with water, the water is compressing the air, so even when you test with water you are acually testing with air,
    you figured it at last good night
     
  19. Onetap

    Onetap New Member

    " conclusion, when you test with water, the water is
    compressing the air, so even when you test with water
    you are acually testing with air,"

    No, Tom. You may do that. You should get the air out of the system.
     
  20. tomplum

    tomplum Active Member

    conclusion 2
    onetap has never tested a system,
     

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