Would it be fair to say that this: http://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock represents a slightly more significant issue than things like whether we are in or out of the EU? This figure rises second after second, year in, year out. Here's one for the place called Britain: http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/ There are discrepancies in the actual numbers presented depending on which clock you look at. This is down to that site's method of totaling the debt as opposed to another one's. The trend on ALL of them though is perpetually upward. Britain has been in the EU, still is. All through the global economic crisis, Britain was in the EU. Leaving the EU may speed up or slow down the rate it's debt accrues...but it will NOT stop it and it will NEVER be reversed. It's a mathematical certainty. The only way these clocks will ever reverse or reset is through something monumentally radical happening. Something unheard of. If a country were to pay off it's debt, there'd be no money. It would all be taken out of existence, the 'promises to pay' would be fulfilled and the money would be gone. Debt is essential in this economic model just so that we have currencies in the first place. Circa $60 trillion dollars! And all we ever do is pay off some of the interest. Taxes don't build hospitals. Taxes go toward the interest on the debt created by governments to build hospitals. But who is this unimaginable sum of fiat owed to who? Who is getting these interest payments? Who will inevitably foreclose when the debt finally becomes impossible to service? (Which is not so very far aways). Who? The Martians? If we are all falling out about things like the EU we are falling out over a pea whilst a wrecking ball is rolling down a hill toward ALL of us. I can't really put it any clearer than that. I may be an idealist but the REALITY of our situation is that we need to unite, and quick. If we let ourselves continue to be divided by arguments like in/out, left/right, black/white, Xtian/Muslim, City/Utd...we are ALL gonna get skittled when that wrecking ball gets here.