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Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by Bob Rathbone, Jul 4, 2024.

  1. carol brown

    carol brown Active Member

    I think the truth is that each of us becomes fiercely defensive of our Nation no matter how much we might criticise and deride it between ourselves.. It's kind of like family..you hate them sometimes, but you'd be prepared to kill anybody who tries to harm them.

    I was just teasing you ---trying to make you tie yourself in knots....., I'm sorry I thought you'd see through it. I'm not frosty at all, and I'm sorry if I made you think that, it was feign.
     
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  2. Alan22

    Alan22 Screwfix Select

    You sound like a balanced and thoughtful arbitor, obviously in any situation where a newcomer arrives in a community they need to be made welcome and understood to feel at home, and likewise they need to be predisposed to belonging, I hope I offer this.
    My experience of people settling near me is that if they are nice and fit in well their various differences vanish pretty quickly, those that don't though share something I find odd, they don't really want to fit in, perhaps because they are uncomfortable with the views around them, of course those views could be conflicting with theirs, downright nasty, or, it could just be them.
     
  3. carol brown

    carol brown Active Member

    Well you, and a few others, made me feel welcome on this site - and that says enough to me about the people you are. I felt an act of kindness on the part of a few of you that you needn't have put yourselves out to make. Enough said.

    We can say all sorts, and all claim many virtues to ourselves. But it's my experience that it's the instinctive, reflexive actions that are the measure of a man (or woman). and I like you well enough.
     
  4. Alan22

    Alan22 Screwfix Select

    Inclusion should never be grudged, but on the topic of immigration, and the current voting patterns it appears many don't agree...just to bring you back to..er..
     
  5. carol brown

    carol brown Active Member

    HAhAhA Yeh Ok LOL
     
  6. Alan22

    Alan22 Screwfix Select

    I feel a bit guilty distracting Bob's thread, but I genuinely believe the UK has been encouraged to dwell on negatives too long, and those based on fairly blatent misinformation, the UK is in a precarious position economically and maybe even culturally, it needs to heal without further division, the good news perhaps is that a dull centrist middle of the road Labour party is probably the best opportunity for that.
     
  7. carol brown

    carol brown Active Member

    But it's not new Alan. It's a tactic that's been employed for over 40 years to just my recollection. Single mothers, workless households, benefits culture, sick-note culture etc,. This is different in that the Brexit vote brought the extent of discontent and racial tensions into full view, perhaps for the first time ever. Of course, not all Brexit supporters were driven by immigration issues, but those that believe it was Boris' magnetism that resulted in the high turnout on his election are probably mistaken.
    There is a widespread, significant degree of immigration linked anxiety.
    And I firmly believe that before we can talk, we must listen, and we must consider. And I don't see a theatre for that anywhere.

    When I was a kid it was Wilson one election and Heath the next, and frankly very little to distinguish between them in terms of ordinary people's lived experience. Dull centrism is vastly underrated.
     
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  8. carol brown

    carol brown Active Member

    I mean Boris' '" brexit election"
     
  9. bright_Spark

    bright_Spark Screwfix Select

    @Ind spark lives in my shadow but it isn’t the fact that he takes my greatness for granted. More that he doesn't realise with him being a simpleton. To read some of his posts you would be forgiven to think that there is nothing wrong with him.
     
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  10. Ind spark

    Ind spark Screwfix Select

    Don't worry about all that, get on with taking more pictures of empty streets, I cant wait for the next batch o_O
     
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  11. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select

    Alan, your input and comments are always welcome, the thread has evolved and anyway, the voting is over. Keep up the good work.
     
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  12. bright_Spark

    bright_Spark Screwfix Select

    I know
     
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  13. arrow

    arrow Screwfix Select

    What good work is that?
     
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  14. bright_Spark

    bright_Spark Screwfix Select

    I was wondering the same thing. Perhaps flying the flag for his asylum seeking friends that he thinks are good for our economy.
     
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  15. Alan22

    Alan22 Screwfix Select

    I took his natural reserve and modesty to be the inner confidence of a man that knows he is the more handsome in the company of more extrovert personalities, I think that might be based on him saying that he was the most handsome though.
     
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  16. bright_Spark

    bright_Spark Screwfix Select

    Probably the latter Alan. He is rather ugly in all fairness and has been compared to the elephant man
     
  17. Ind spark

    Ind spark Screwfix Select

    Who we on about
     
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  18. bright_Spark

    bright_Spark Screwfix Select

    Oh just you. I wouldn’t worry over it. Nobody cares what you look like on here. A bit like it doesn’t matter what you look like if you were a radio dj. You are a simpleton but you are our simpleton.
     
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  19. Ind spark

    Ind spark Screwfix Select

    Thanks that means a lot
     
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  20. Alan22

    Alan22 Screwfix Select

    Boris was a lightening post where soft Conservatism and further right factions could strike simultaniously, different degrees of caring about immigration but mostly falling on one side of it, the ERG maneouvered to install him from within, if you go back to the formation of the ERG, a think tank that breaks every ethical rule governing it's funding, membership and formation, and consider for a moment why they were allowed to exist let alone puppet a UK government, I think the picture is clearer, it's lost on many that Truss ended this with her incompetence, and I'd say most that voted for Brexit don't even know what was driving it, a 'peoples vote' organised by billionaire hedge fund investors.
     

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