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Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by Ryluer, May 7, 2015.

  1. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    The fact is under labour it would be a lot worse.
     
  2. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    He made the debt a lot worse over the last 5 years...
     
  3. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    And that's the last thing the electorate would want,,, A PM with ideas :p:p:p:p:p
     
  4. Welshdragon1

    Welshdragon1 Active Member

  5. The richest 1% in this country doubled their wealth over the past 5 years. Doubled.

    The richest 15% in this country pay less proportion of tax than the poorest 15%.

    That's austerity for you under the Tories - the poor are paying for the economic decline.

    They really are poor b'st'rds.
     
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  6. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    But not worse than labour had they been in power.
     
  7. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    What economic decline?

    The extent of the current economic renaissance was illustrated by new figures from the independent Office of National Statistics, which showed that unemployment fell by 97,000 in the last quarter of 2014, taking the jobless rate down to 5.7 per cent.

    The overall employment rate, at 73.2 per cent, is now at its highest since records began in 1971.

    Contrary to fashionable left-wing mythology, around three-quarters of all these new jobs are full-time.
    In France, the Socialist Government of President Hollande has adopted exactly the same policies that Miliband wants in Britain: crippling wealth taxes and protection for the public sector.

    The biggest enemy of the UK is public sector pay demands and dole slackers.
     
    Last edited: May 9, 2015
  8. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    ...
     
  9. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Macjobs
     
  10. Welshdragon1

    Welshdragon1 Active Member


    Figures get manipulated & I can provide proof from Labour council, that they played the system & won't be able to get away with it again next year, all caught live on public webcast
     
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  11. Gatt

    Gatt Active Member

    Do you really believe, the b/s you spiel ?
     
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  12. PaulBlackpool

    PaulBlackpool Screwfix Select

    The Coalition made the poor, sick and disabled pay the price for the mistakes of the bankers which Natalie Bennet said being one of the few things I agree with her on. IMHO this is fact and I have disabled relatives who are not very happy right now. But Ryluer is right on the debt being something like £1,000,000,000,000. and the only person to point this out was Nigel Farage. I did not vote for UKIP but I am really sorry he did not become an MP.
    So which party can be "fair" to everybody without an unlimited purse? I don't think any of them can.
    Of course we might now have a massive Conservative boom which might filter through to the more disadvantaged in our society but I am not holding my breath.
     
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  13. teabreak

    teabreak Screwfix Select

    Ah for the days when Britain was prosperous and the greatest Empire since the Romans the rich were rolling in it and the likes of us lived hand to mouth and went hop picking for our holidays!:eek::eek:
     
  14. PaulBlackpool

    PaulBlackpool Screwfix Select

    You are not wrong there mate.
    Do they still grow hops in Kent?
     
  15. Sorry, Ry - poorly chosen words by me.

    I meant it's the poor that are paying for the economic decline which happened - ie the recession.

    Yes, I'll accept that this country is now making progress with economic development, but the point I'm making is that it's the already less-fortunate who are paying a far disproportionate amount for it.

    So this 'austerity' - and you ain't seen nuffink yet - is being largely borne by the least wealthy amongst us.

    It's no irony that those who were most involved in causing the recession have walked away scot-free. The Fred Goodwins of this world. Crooked 'ankers.


    (As it happened I didn't vote Labour, I voted for Lib Dem as they were the only party with a rat's chance of keeping the Tories out of Torridge. And had UKIP been the party in second place to the Tories in stead of the LDs, I'd have voted Tory to keep UKIP out...)
     
  16. Welshdragon1

    Welshdragon1 Active Member

  17. PaulBlackpool

    PaulBlackpool Screwfix Select

    Well I did vote Labour and I am pleased to say our Blackpool South MP was re-elected.
    You are spot on DA . The poor, sick and disabled have and will increasingly bear the pain ultimately caused by the bankers ; the "loads of money " City culture as originally encouraged by Margaret Thatcher. As there was a sex revolution in the sixties so there was a money revolution in the eighties. Since then it has been "grab, grab & more grab. So much so that my daughter at aged 10 or so said "money is life".
     
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  18. Welshdragon1

    Welshdragon1 Active Member

  19. proby

    proby Active Member

    And yet labour had been in power for years when the sh.. Hit the fan but it seems the Tories get the blame. Possibly because labour greatly increased jobs that don't earn wealth ie council jobs. Useful jobs maybe but if they don't create money like manufacturing they are going to be the first to go.
     
  20. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    The majority of jobs labour created in their last term was public sector jobs which ultimately suck the life blood from UK PLC.
     

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