Wiring Danfoss RET 2000MS

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by ClintWestwood, Nov 17, 2018.

  1. ClintWestwood

    ClintWestwood New Member

    I'm new to the forum so sorry if this has been covered before - I'm replacing an old ACL with a Danfoss and I'm not quite sure about the wiring.
    Red to L, Blue to N then what goes to 2 and 3? Thanks in advance. 20181117_195553.jpg 20181113_131905.jpg 20181113_131724.jpg 20181117_195613.jpg
     
  2. Mike83

    Mike83 Screwfix Select

    Yellow to 2
     
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  3. Allsorts

    Allsorts Super Member

    Hi Clint.

    Your old ACL stat is almost certainly as follows:

    1 RED is LIVE
    2 YELLOW is SWITCHED LIVE
    4 BLUE is NEUTRAL (confirm it's '4')

    Which means your new 'stat's connections will be as follows:

    L - takes the RED LIVE
    N - takes the BLUE NEUTRAL
    2 - the 'ON' takes the YELLOW

    According to this: http://assistyou.danfoss.co.uk/PCMPDF/44035v01.pdf the LIVE is wired internally to the switching part so that '2' (the 'ON') becomes live whenever the stat calls for heat, so no link is needed from the L to '1' as would usually be required.

    I don't get your last photo - which stat is that for? The new Danfoss? That does show a terminal '1' so if you find that the stat doesn't work (ie it does light up and show a display but doesn't actually switch on the boiler) then you'll likely need to fit a wire link (red sleeved) between the L and '1'.

    Only proceed with this if what I've said makes sense... And turn the power off fully.
     
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  4. Allsorts

    Allsorts Super Member

    Jeeeez - I spend all evening typing and Mike does it in two seconds... :oops:
     
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  5. Mike83

    Mike83 Screwfix Select

    Photo 4 is the wall plate for the stat.
    Photo 1 clips onto photo 4
     
  6. Allsorts

    Allsorts Super Member

    For the new one? Annoyingly showing a terminal 1 - sheeeesh :rolleyes:
     
  7. Mike83

    Mike83 Screwfix Select

    The backplate shows a 1 but there’s no corresponding pin on the actual stat.
     
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  8. ClintWestwood

    ClintWestwood New Member

    Thanks both of you your help is appreciated.
     
  9. ClintWestwood

    ClintWestwood New Member

    To confirm yellow to 2 and one yellow and green to 2 and the other to 3?
     
  10. Mike83

    Mike83 Screwfix Select

    Yellow to 2.
    Yellow/green not required so tuck it in behind backplate
     
  11. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Does the tucking in behind back plate conform to current electrical wiring regulations Mike?
     
  12. Mike83

    Mike83 Screwfix Select

    Mmmmmmm.
    Maybe use a terminal strip.
     
  13. ClintWestwood

    ClintWestwood New Member

    Thanks again, I'll fit it tomorrow with the confidence I didn't have before! Much appreciated. :D
     
  14. ClintWestwood

    ClintWestwood New Member

    Speaking as a novice - I haven't had to understand an electrical circuit since my schooldays in the 60s - and I'm not doubting your advice for a minute but I'd like to understand the diagram please. To me it looks like terminal 2 doesn't go anywhere so should be the earth, but 3 looks like it should have a wire connected because it links to the rest of the circuit. Help me understand please! Screenshot_2018-11-18-07-47-21.png
     
  15. ClintWestwood

    ClintWestwood New Member

    And why doesn't the new one need an earth but the old one did? :confused:
     
  16. Mike83

    Mike83 Screwfix Select

    The new one won’t need an earth because it’s double insulated.
    Lots of electronics are like this these days.

    Terminal 3 does nothing with your current set up.

    Terminal 2 is called ON because when the stat is calling for heat power goes from the Live terminal to terminal 2.
    From terminal 2 the power then goes to either the zone valve or boiler.

    If you put the earth into terminal 2 it will trip the electrics.

    If an earth is required on anything it will be clearly marked and have its own terminal.
     
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  17. Mike83

    Mike83 Screwfix Select

    In your first photo on the white sticker there is a square inside a square.
    This means double insulated so no earth required
     
  18. ClintWestwood

    ClintWestwood New Member

    That's brilliant it all makes sense now, thanks Mike.
     
  19. Allsorts

    Allsorts Super Member

    As Mike says.

    See the wiring diagram, Clint - you have a N and L supplying the new stat and if you look you'll see these go to 'electronics'? The 'electronics' is your stat, the bits that make it work.

    Now look at the L wire that goes to the 'top' of the electronics - you'll also see that branch off to the right until it goes to a 'switch' (do you recognise a switch symbol?). That switch has a 'pole' which swings two ways (ooh-er), one way to the '3' and t'other to the '2' - yes? So in one position you'll find that Term 3 becomes 'live' and t'other way it's '2'.

    When you now connect your yellow wire to '2', it'll become 'live' when the stat switch swings to 'ON' - which is what you want.

    Does your stat have a metal back box sunk in to the wall? If so, you'll likely find an earth terminal in there to terminate your green/yellow earth wire in. If you don't, you'll instead need to make sure that there's no way that bare earth wire will touch any other terminals - either use a screw terminal, or you should be ok by folding up the bare wire and then slipping the Y/G sleeving fully over it to fully cover it, and then fold/tuck it safely away behind the stat's plate.
     
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  20. ClintWestwood

    ClintWestwood New Member

    One final question Mike, re the DIL switch settings - for a basic set up when the boiler fires when below a temp and goes off when that temp is reached, should I use both 1 and 3 or is just 3 sufficient?
     

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