wiring electric Hob and oven in same connection

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  1. lee49

    lee49 New Member

    hi guys.
    can anyone help me please.
    im.having a new kitchen fitted and I've come accros a problem which is doing my head in.
    can i wire the hob and oven together??
    I've heard you can and someone at work says that it will fry my appliances.
    I've just ordered this
    https://www.superlecdirect.com/p-pr...MIhOqv8ZGE1wIVKBbTCh0UuQRMEAQYASABEgLrl_D_BwE

    I can wire it myself but don't want to blow my new appliances.

    I've current bought a Neff induction Hob and Neff electric Oven.

    here's the spec if that helps.
    HOB
    Features
    • 4 zone induction hob
    • Variable 17-stage power settings for each zone
    • 2 stage residual heat indicators
    • Control panel lock
    • QuickStart function
    • ReStart function
    • Boost setting for all zones
    • Automatic pan recognition
    • 4.6kW power output (20A); current management options for 16A, 13A or 10A connection
    • Safety cut out facility
    • Control panel lock
    • Timer with automatic shut off for all zones
    • LED timer for each zone with switch off function and acoustic signal
    Design:
    • 592 mm wide
    • 60 cm width
    • Bevelled front edge
    Technical information
    • Installation measurements: 560 mmx490 mm
    • Length wire connection: 110 cm
    • 4.6kW power output (20A); current management options for 16A, 13A or 10A connection
    • Min. worktop thickness: 30 mm
    • Output 4600 W

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    The built-in Neff B57CR22N0B Slide & Hide Electric Oven is spacious and packed with plenty of different functions that allow you to cook the way you want.

    More precise cooking

    Using CircoTherm technology with a powerful fan as its main cooking function, the Neff B57CR22N0B offers extremely balanced heat distribution, giving you food that's evenly cooked in less time.

    Among its 12 functions, Hot Air Eco combines hot air with steam for tantalising browning and crisping for all kinds of ingredients. Use the Top/Bottom Heat setting for a conventional approach that's great for baking scones, pastries and other treats.

    Integrated grill and specialist functions

    A full-width grill gives you more ways to prepare food in your Neff B57CR22N0B Oven, from meat and fish to vegetables, snacks desserts.

    It's variable, so you can use it at half-width to accommodate smaller portions. The Hot Air Grilling function cooks your ingredients thoroughly inside and out while crisping the top, so it's especially good for meat and pork dishes.

    You'll even be able to prove yeast dough in the oven, improving the texture and quality of pastries like cakes and breads.

    Discreet and easy to clean

    A Slide&Hide door fully retracts under the NeffB57CR22N0B, making loading and unloading easier and safer by taking up less space in front of the oven.

    Pyrolytic liners in the oven allow the appliance to effectively clean itself by burning away any deposits from roasting, baking and grilling. It's a simple matter to wipe or sweep away any residue to maintain a beautifully clean interior.

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    Specification
    Technical specifications for NEFF B57CR22N0B Slide & Hide Electric Oven - Stainless Steel
    OVERVIEW
    Type Built-in single oven
    Fuel Electric
    CONTROLS
    Timer type Programmable
    Cooking functions 12 oven functions, including:

    - Braising
    - Bread Baking
    - Bottom heat
    - CircoTherm
    - Conventional heat ECO
    - Dough proving
    - Hotair Eco
    - Pizza setting
    - Top/bottom heat
    Display type LED display
    Control type Buttons
    OVENS
    Oven type Multifunction
    Energy rating A
    Energy consumption 0.69 kWh
    Number of cavities 1
    Capacity 71 litres
    Size Large
    Viewing window Single-glazed
    Interior light Yes
    Type of cleaning Pyrolytic
    GRILL
    Grill type Integrated
    Grill features - Hot air grilling
    - Full surface grill
    - Half width grill
    GENERAL
    Colour Stainless steel
    Bar handles Yes
    Electrical installation This product requires hardwiring to a 16 Amp fuse and should be installed by a qualified engineer, such as one of our Knowhow experts.
    Power supply 16 amp
     
  2. retiredsparks

    retiredsparks Super Member

    Will they cook SPAM ?

     
  3. jonathanc

    jonathanc Guest

    why not get "Teamknowhow" to do it????????????
     
  4. lee49

    lee49 New Member

    how much would they charge if i need extra socket installing
     
  5. unphased

    unphased Screwfix Select

    Hi Lee

    Don't listen to "someone at work". What do they know?

    Yes, you can install both appliances on to the dual outlet plate, that's why they manufacture dual outlet plates. Have you asked an electrician to check your kitchen layout against the existing accessory positions? Might be worth asking one.

    Good luck
     
  6. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select

    Team 'Knowhow' more like Team 'Knowfa'.
    Anyway, apart from that, congratulations on buying a decent oven and hob. Yes, both the oven and hob may share the same cooker control unit provided that neither is more than 2 metres away from the cooker control unit. If you have an existing cooker circuit with a cooker control unit connected, all you need to do is run a 6mm or 10mm cable (depends on the existing cable and CB size) from the control unit to the hob, and another to the oven, simple as that. You may need to use supplementary heat resistant sleeving on the cable insulation at the warm end in the oven and hob, be guided by the manufactures instructions. Oh, yes, your mate at work would not make an electrician, ignore him you won't 'blow' the appliances unless you have a 415 volt 3 phase supply to connect them to. Perhaps he should apply to join "Team Knowhow".
     
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  7. lee49

    lee49 New Member

    and it won't blow out or damage my appliances? so I just simply wire both up and away I go ??
     
  8. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select

    Yes, if you look back at other posts on this subject you will see similar questions and answers. Others will confirm.
     
  9. Bazza

    Bazza Screwfix Select

    Hold on there pardner - There are two bits of ESSENTIAL information that NOBODY has asked.:rolleyes:

    Everybody is guessing that you already have an existing oven/cooker supply to the kitchen? Do you?
    This will need to be on its own separate circuit from the consumer unit. If it is, we need to know how many amps is the MCB protecting that circuit.
    It will say something like B32 on it. Post a photo if you aren't sure..
     
  10. lee49

    lee49 New Member

    I've just removed a gas top and electric oven. but now I'm installing 2 electric appliances.
    electric Hob and separate oven
    I've ordered a twin box to replace the singe so I can wire them both in
     
  11. lee49

    lee49 New Member

    here the switch and terminal. new double arrives 2moz
     

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  12. lee49

    lee49 New Member

    can't see where it says b32
     
  13. Dr Bodgit

    Dr Bodgit Super Member

    On the consumer unit...
     
  14. jonathanc

    jonathanc Guest

    hi

    any chance you can post a link to the double arriving tomorrow pls
     
  15. lee49

    lee49 New Member

    here's wot I've bought
     

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  16. lee49

    lee49 New Member

    here the power box
     

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  17. Dr Bodgit

    Dr Bodgit Super Member

    A consumer unit looks like this and you can see where it say B16, B20, B32 etc on each MCB

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  18. Dr Bodgit

    Dr Bodgit Super Member

    Great, which one powers the oven? And what's the B number on it?
     
  19. Bazza

    Bazza Screwfix Select

    Each of those switches should have a label saying what they control. Sometimes it's inside the cover that seems to have been removed.
     
  20. Dr Bodgit

    Dr Bodgit Super Member

    I'm going to guess the oven is 32A...2x6A on the left which are two lighting ccts. 1x16A, boiler/immersion or some such. Then 3x32A (can't see right hand side)..ground and 1st floor final rings and oven. But perhaps I should stop making it up. ;)
     

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