worktop miters

Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by grouty, Mar 21, 2004.

  1. grouty

    grouty New Member

    has any 1 got any tips on getting the joints so you cant feel them when you pass your hand over it the miters are perfectwith the router and jig but would like to get them that bit better so you cant feel them i have seen them like that
     
  2. big all

    big all Screwfix Select

    two battons clamped each edge to pull edges in line
    then tighten up clamps

    big all
     
  3. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    i use biscuits but i still on occasions don't get it perfect ( although i do dry fit the joints to check the biscuits are in line)

    big all, i think i understand your answer but to my mind it only gets the horizontal fit right.

    can you explain to the innocent how to get the vertical component right
     
  4. big all

    big all Screwfix Select

    imagine the join say its a corner back edge 2 foot of
    baton on top and the same underneath tighten a clamp in
    the center placed on baton over the join 1 foot
    each side same at the front if the clamp i positioned
    over the joint it should line up the work surfaces
    but obviously you cant do this if you cant get 2 inches
    clear to get the clamp in
    look at the item about routers and work tops over the
    last 10 or so pages this sort of subject has had lots
    of coverage cos the bickies should line up haa haa
    big all
     
  5. big all

    big all Screwfix Select

    also look at the items on biscuit jointers for ideas
    another thought if you temporarily fix two batons across
    the joint underneath start one side screw on [if you like
    using lots of glue put a bit of paper between baton and
    worktop ] slide other half into position secure with screws
    you may have to raise the other end off the worktops to
    keep them level
    also make sure you batons have predrilled holes to
    allow them to pull tightly together

    big all
     
  6. grouty

    grouty New Member

    cheers for that will give that a go i can see that working once there bolted together by yousing 2"10s through a piloted batton at about 3" centers should pull it flush
     
  7. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    thanks big all, i'll be trying that in three days time
     
  8. woodsmith

    woodsmith New Member

    One thing to watch is the sealant/glue you use. I tried the colour matched stuff (comes in a very small tube, one for each joint) (came with the kitchen I was fitting)and the stuff stuck on contact like glue:(, with no time to get things absolutely level.

    I would never use it again, best to use silicon, you have lots of time and can even take the joint appart if necessary.
     
  9. bodget&scarpers

    bodget&scarpers New Member

    well they can b a pig 2 get dead level,even with b/joints as u r underneath tightening that poxy 10m/m nut and client is saying r u done yet!!!!
    and those gloss finish tops the client sees in the showroom with no butt & scribe joint,they want it :(
    but after 6 months use they understand y i hate using or fitting them.
     
  10. WOLF

    WOLF New Member

    always check the ACTUAL thickness of both joints prior to clamping up... as most pre-made work tops can vary by as much as an 1/8th of an inch... due to moisture content!!!! which when you tighten up your bones underneath, screws up the top for being smooth and level each side of the joint, may only be 1/8th , but it may as well be a step... for the fact that it shows big time!!!!!!!
     
  11. Dewy

    Dewy New Member

    with regard to the c&g qualified you should also say 'about 3mm' so it doesnt confuse them Matt.
    Welcome back by the way.
     
  12. Evs

    Evs New Member

    Woodsmith you are right colorfill does go off very quickly, but i find if i use pleanty of silicone to seal the ends of the joint before i put on the colorfill it is much more workable.
     
  13. woodsmith

    woodsmith New Member

    Evs, do you think it is worth using as well as silicon?

    What are the advantages?

    Keith
     
  14. woodsmith

    woodsmith New Member

    Evs, do you think it is worth using as well as silicon?

    What are the advantages?

    Keith
     
  15. woodsmith

    woodsmith New Member

    Damn computer:(:(:(
     
  16. big all

    big all Screwfix Select

    heelllooo grouty
    what thickness is your baton/worktop!!!!
    if your batons 18mm and your work top is 40ish fine
    but any smaller or if you countersink i would be worried
    about 10+2s breaking out

    good luck any way

    big all
     
  17. jorustle

    jorustle Guest

    That's a bad st..st..stutter you've got there Keith.
     
  18. woodsmith

    woodsmith New Member

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, what stutter;)
     
  19. jorustle

    jorustle Guest

    If I've told you once, I've told you at least a million times. Don't exaggerate.
     
  20. ColG

    ColG New Member

    Woodsmith - alias Arkwright ;)
     

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