Yet more anti-gas scare stories...

Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by BiancoTheGiraffe, Sep 14, 2022.

  1. BiancoTheGiraffe

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  2. techie

    techie Active Member

    Well, I’m no Gas “engineer” just a person with an engineering degree. Having said that, and I’m not defending the content of the link-, stands to reason that products from gas combustion must be in the kitchen…..Dunno if they’re injurious to health tho
     
  3. BiancoTheGiraffe

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    Of course, but when switched off?!
     
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  4. techie

    techie Active Member

    Ahhh, you are quite correct…sorry….
     
  5. CGN

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    What a load of codswallop! Anything to push the agenda!
     
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  6. kitfit1

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    Wow....................well it is the Daily Fail, so is almost certain to be full of bulls droppings. And yet again in this case the whole article is bulls droppings........................move on, nothing to see there.
     
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  7. Hell68

    Hell68 Active Member

    As above. Its the daily mail! Secondly its an article in the USA.
     
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  8. Bob Rathbone

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    We have an extractor over our gas hob. To generate enough pollutants to cause issues you would need to run all of the burners all of the time, as for a gas hob giving off pollutants when it's off, that is fake news, if it does, their is something wrong with it and it needs fixing.
     
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  9. quasar9

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    The Daily fail and most red tops carry what borders on fake news, designed to scare the reader. Years ago the scientific community decided to examine in detail a study that showed heath issues of some sweetener (I think it was saccharine, which has largely fallen out of use). In this study , rats were fed this sweetener and sure enough they developed health issues. Papers like DM ran this story , gleefully quoting that research was from some well known Uni and therefore implying it must be true.

    Only when the scientists decided to closely examine the data closely did the truth came out. Sure the rats developed issues, but they were being fed a few % of their body weight. That was equivalent of an 80kg person taking between 800 and 1600 gms of sweetener a day.

    1.6kg of lard, potatoes or even beans a day won’t do you any good either.
     
  10. CGN

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    Tbf, most newspapers, wether broad or narrow push BS articles.
     
  11. BiancoTheGiraffe

    BiancoTheGiraffe Screwfix Select

    They certainly do, the Guardian is a prime example! Only difference between them and the Mail, is that the Mail doesn't constantly claim to be neutral and unbiased!
     
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  12. CGN

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    oh the holier than thou Guardian. The only benefit of such a paper is that it will light a few more fires.
     
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  13. sparky steve

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    If you don’t read the newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.
    Possibly the only true fact printed on a newspaper is the date?
     
  14. quasar9

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    Well put !
     
  15. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select

    The basic rule of most journalism is 'Never let the truth get in the way of a good story'. :)
     
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  16. Rick1632

    Rick1632 Active Member

    I'm a chemist. I saw this report a couple of years ago and thought it was a load of rubbish, but looked into it, and unfortunately it's at least partially true. Not sure about the turned off bit - that's not really chemically possible as the nitrogen oxides are generated by combustion.


    https://www.vox.com/energy-and-envi...ove-cooking-indoor-air-pollution-health-risks

    Edit - Ah the off thing is hydrocarbon leakages which is sure to happen to a tiny extent, especially methane. But as with all things, it's the dose that makes the poison - there's no evidence this occurs at a level sufficient to be a threat though so they're definitely scaremongering here.
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2022
  17. quasar9

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    I was not sure if the issue was PM2.5 or oxides of nitrogen. However, I always though NOX needed higher pressures than open burning at atmospheric pressures. Like those found in internal combustion engines where cold pressure is around 40bar with pressure rising during combustion.
     

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