10.5Kw shower 45A or 50A MCB

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by kangooman, Jun 5, 2006.

  1. kangooman

    kangooman New Member

    Have looked around the site for an answer to this one but to no avail.

    Opinions seem to differ.

    Can you get 50A pull cord or douple pole switches.

    Any advice greatly appreciated as to what size mcb to use.

    Thank you.
     
  2. Coloumb

    Coloumb Screwfix Select

    Can you get 50A pull cord or douple pole switches.

    Not come across one but you could probably use an incomer mounted in a din rail box of some kind.

    Any advice greatly appreciated as to what size mcb to
    use.

    For what rating of shower?
     
  3. Coloumb

    Coloumb Screwfix Select

    Doh! It's in the title!
     
  4. Coloumb

    Coloumb Screwfix Select

    Well 10500w / 230 is 46a so I would use a 50. There was a post about this a while ago and I pointed out that, although the mcb will likely not trip at 46a*, it is not good practice to run your mcbs at or near their nominal rating.

    *I think the trip rating of mcb's is 1.45 the nominal = 66a...
     
  5. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

  6. Coloumb

    Coloumb Screwfix Select

    Corrected version

    Well 10500w / 230 is 46a so I would use a 50. There
    was a post about this a while ago and I pointed out
    that, although a 45a mcb will likely not trip at 46a*,
    it is not good practice to run your mcbs at or near
    their nominal rating.

    *I think the trip rating of mcb's is 1.45 the nominal
    = 66a...
     
  7. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

  8. Removed 4

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    Use a 50 amp B Type and RCD protect. Due to the
    e nature of your post are you competent to carry out
    the job?

    If you suspect that, then why didn't you say so in your first reply?

    And more to the point, why are you offering advice on the MCB size when you have no idea of the cable size?

    Mr Kangoo, formerly known as 'Ace Leccie', does consider himself to be competent. Moreover, he apparantly holds a very dim view of unregistered electricians, operating on his manor. . . . .

    Marjorie
     
  9. Coloumb

    Coloumb Screwfix Select

    Well equally he did not ask about volt drop, max Zs, cable routing, any correction factors, mutually detrimental affects, nature of supply characteristics...blah blah.
     
  10. ban-all-sheds

    ban-all-sheds New Member

    Yes.
    One such that Ib <= In <= Iz
     
  11. Home Farm

    Home Farm New Member

    Now that's what I call a succinct answer.
     
  12. Removed 4

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    Well equally he did not ask about volt drop, max Zs,
    cable routing, any correction factors, mutually
    detrimental affects, nature of supply
    characteristics...blah blah.



    No, and nor did you.

    The fact remains that both you and JP advised on the MCB size having no regard to the size of cable. JP did at least help out regarding the 50-Amp switch though.

    So stop wriggling. . . .

    Marjorie
     
  13. Coloumb

    Coloumb Screwfix Select

    Ya boo sucks to you!
     
  14. plastic bertrand

    plastic bertrand Active Member

    Marj, you have a pop at JP., then you mess with me and mr bo. Any trouble I destroy you electrically.
     
  15. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Use a 50 amp B Type and RCD protect. Due to the
    e nature of your post are you competent to carry
    out
    the job?

    If you suspect that, then why didn't you say so in
    your first reply?

    And more to the point, why are you offering advice on
    the MCB size when you have no idea of the cable
    size?

    Mr Kangoo, formerly known as 'Ace Leccie', does
    consider himself to be competent. Moreover, he
    apparantly holds a very dim view of unregistered
    electricians, operating on his manor. . . . .

    Marjorie

    If he is competent then he knows the cable size doesn't he X. Due to the nature of his post thats why I asked if he was competent. You are still making yourself look a fool aren't you. Again I say you are a pathetic little has been.
     
  16. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Marj, you have a pop at JP., then you mess with me
    and mr bo. Any trouble I destroy you electrically.

    Afternoon Mr Bertrand. That X is now so pathetic he doesn't even know whats going on. The chaps knows what he is doing? and I cannot find any reference to cable size questions. Waht we need is fresh people like Ant and the like on the forum, because X is losing credence with the peeps.
     
  17. X

    X New Member

    JP.

    Piss off

    Once again you miss the point ....
     
  18. plastic bertrand

    plastic bertrand Active Member

    Well JP. you win every time so I can't see why they argue, and 2ndly all the threads are wind ups anyway, as you can see by the title of this one!.
     
  19. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    JP.

    Piss off

    Once again you miss the point ....

    Likewise. Makes me think if you need to start putting disclaimers at the end of your posts. I say again that I question the chaps competence. If you don't like it then don't post replies to my answers and let in the field electricians question me. Sinewave springs to mind, he might disagree but he sure has not got your approach. It will not work with me. Thought you learnt your lesson by now.
     
  20. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Have looked around the site for an answer to this one
    but to no avail.

    Opinions seem to differ.

    Can you get 50A pull cord or douple pole switches.

    Any advice greatly appreciated as to what size mcb to
    use.

    Thank you.

    This man is competent. Where is there any reference to asking about cable size?
     

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