Advice: Building a TV unit/bench

Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by AvagoDad, Jan 15, 2016.

  1. AvagoDad

    AvagoDad Member

    Hi folks,

    I want to build a TV unit similar to the attached pic, but I have no idea where to start when it comes to materials. I 'think' 22mm ply, painted white would work? Or would it?

    Any suggestions or pointers would be greatly appreciated. I have some basic tools, combi drill, SMS, jigsaw, sander etc.
     

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  2. mr moose

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    HI Avago, Yes 22mm ply will work fine, you may be able to get your local timber merchant to cut all the ply to size. I would have the internal uprights set in slightly, it will look nicer. Other things to bare in mind are the cut edges, as they are ply you will see the laminates even if you sand them down , this may be fine for you, or you could lip them with something else ( which will have to be exactly the same width as the ply)
    You can then screw it all together, and fill the countersunk holes before sanding.
     
  3. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    I would pop down to your local B&Q reasonable selection of materials (some finished) and they will cut the boards for you
     
  4. AvagoDad

    AvagoDad Member

    Thanks gents, good to know I had the right idea. Would a few coats of paint cover the layers in ply?
     
  5. Mr Rusty

    Mr Rusty Screwfix Select

    I see you mention painting it white. If you are painting and don't want a wood finish just use MDF. You can even use filler to correct bad joints as the paint hides a multitude of sins ( I often use car filler, because it dries very hard and sands nicely). You will get a good finish on MDF and it's a bit easier when compared to ply which can be a devil to work with to not chip the top layer of laminate. Seal it (with sanding sealer or an mdf sealer) sand it down then put a top coat on.

    When I've made furniture like this and want a wood finish, what I have done is join a small solid wood section (18x25 say) to a piece of board using dowels. Ply always looks like ply IMO, and finishing the edges neatly to disguise it is difficult. Just using laminate faced board also looks like exactly what it is, and again finishing the edges, whilst not difficult can easily look rough. If you use a small section of real wood around the front, you can put neat radiuses on it so it looks good. Once I used some mahogany, ran a 6mm groove in and pushed in a 6mm square bead in a light wood, which once sanded down made a nice contrasting feature strip. The panels can then just be cheapo laminate board. A proper dowel jig helps. Little bit more work than just joining boards together, but you end up with something that actually looks half decent and is still inexpensive. If you visually make the edgeing/frame a feature, the solid wood edge doesn't necessarily have to be the same thickness as the board.
     
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  6. AvagoDad

    AvagoDad Member

    Thanks mate.

    Would you advise getting a pocket hole jig? They seem to get a lot of praise and make some really nice looking furniture.
     
  7. I'd go with Rusty on this one - MDF is chust much easier to get a good sharp edge on, and make ready for a decent paint finish; it doesn't splinter, exposed cut edges can be sanded, primed, sanded again to get them good for painting, no 'wood grain' showing through (which - on ply - will tend to vary a lot), etc etc. (Yeah, I've run out of reasons...)

    What's more, for a thicker top and bottom, you can cheat by doubling-up an extra strip of MDF and then plane and sand them down together.

    As for joining the panels, you could actually chust get away with using dowels - 8 or 10mm diameter. Use dowel pins to get the locations spot on, and then Bob's yer thingy.

    Prime (MDF Primer) and mini-foam-roller on a coat of satinwood.
     
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  8. AvagoDad

    AvagoDad Member

    Awesome. Do you think 18mm MDF would be strong enough? Also, would I need to drill pilot holes for screws if I use them?
     
  9. Mr Rusty

    Mr Rusty Screwfix Select

    I've always used dowels no problem. If you use screws pilot holes are best
     
  10. dwlondon

    dwlondon Active Member

    You could top the basic ladder frame with some timberboard, which is usually soft enough to work with hand tools and abrasives. Then you have the option to stain or varnish etc. But for decent results you might think about some clamps.
     
  11. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Buy it from IKEA or if you really want to make it then take a cutting list down to B&Q, one sheet of 18mmMDF should do that, I've never heard of 22mm BTW, I would simply glue and pin it together with PVA and 40 mm pins.
    Paint it before you assemble it and use one strike on the pin heads.
     
  12. AvagoDad

    AvagoDad Member

    I do actually want to build one for the experience, or I would just buy one. Got to start somewhere
     
  13. For it to work well, it has to be cut accurately and straight-edged.

    The saws at B&Q etc will cut the pieces dead straight, but whether they will be accurate enough is another matter.

    22mm MDF (or double 12mm) is pretty strong and will hold chust about anything up. BUT, it will also 'sag' under a constant heavy weight.

    What's going on it?
     
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  14. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    22mm MDF (or double 12mm) ?
     
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  15. AvagoDad

    AvagoDad Member

    49" Telly on the top, but it's new and quite light. I think with the middle support 18mm should handle it. Went to BNQ earlier and it's £20 a sheet. So once I get the primer, screws and glue I reckon about £35. I'll post some pics of my disaster/success once it's finished! (I've got the paint already)
     
  16. Mr Rusty

    Mr Rusty Screwfix Select

    Piece of really good advice: Measure twice, cut once. And I still sometimes cut things wrong through mismeasuring.
     
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  17. mr moose

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    If your thinking about Mdf, here is something similar I made recently, its a boot rack bench (unpainted) people will sit on it, so it had to be pretty solid, all made from 18mm doubled up, mostly just glued and pinned. 3mm mdf veneer on the front. Had to assemble some of it in customers home, otherwise I would never have got it out of the work shop, weighs a ton!
    IMG_20151202_173350_picmonkeyed.jpg
     
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  18. AvagoDad

    AvagoDad Member

    That looks pretty good, hope mine turns out as well! It it really sturdy with glue and pins? I don't know why but something inside me keeps saying it won't be stable if I don't use screws.
     
  19. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Screw the back on as that is what provides the stability and you won't see them and pin the rest.
    If you won't see the sides then screw those as well.
    I never dowel as it is very time consuming setting it up.
     
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  20. sospan

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