Breakfast Bar - no legs

Discussion in 'Kitchen Fitters' Talk' started by Dmck, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. Dmck

    Dmck New Member

    Any advice appreciated!

    I have some leftover kitchen worktop that I am going to cut to size and attach to the wall as a small breakfast bar. It will be about 400mm depth and 1.5m in length. I don't want support legs under the worktop so I was thinking of using 2 of these brackets.
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/heavy-duty-bracket-black-300-x-300mm-2-pack/78941

    Screwed into the underside of you worktop and bolted into the wall. - would 2 brackets be enough to support the worktop?

    What should I use to fix the brackets to the wall? Masonry wall, 6mm diameter holes pre-drilled in the brackets.

    Cheers
     
  2. Working On It

    Working On It Member

    It's more than enough, as long as you don't lean on it.

    I would say no way, well at least I wouldn't be happy using this method.
    WOI
     
  3. Dmck

    Dmck New Member

    The brackets hold 200kg each - would they really not be enough even with anchor bolts on the wall?

    Is there a better idea?
     

  4. Its the cantilever effect of leaning on the end that is the problem

    I wouldnt trust it long term. 2 legs would make a big difference.

    But wait for more opinions
     
  5. Nis999

    Nis999 Member

    Its not the strength of the brackets that matter, its how you fix them to the wall; the cantilever effect of someone leaning on the edge will tend to pull out the fixings; perhaps rawl bolts will do it, but I'd prefer to have some additional support, maybe at the ends?
     
  6. Dmck

    Dmck New Member

    I am really hoping to avoid using legs under the worktop. Would a batton bolted to the wall and screwed to the worktop, between the brackets do the job?

    ...any ideas welcome folks
     
  7. C

    Decorative but strong chain support from ceiling ?

    Batten wont stop the cantilever but would help, especially if well secured to top and wall
     
  8. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    What's the wall construction?
     
  9. Dmck

    Dmck New Member

    Solid red brick wall, plastered.
     
  10. wiggy

    wiggy Screwfix Select

    Use 4 brackets, fix them well, tell the wife not to sit on it :)
     
  11. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select

  12. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Get two or three support brackets made, say 380mm x 500mm at local metalworkers.
     
  13. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

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  14. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    I would even use coach screws for fixing to wall,better than a woodscrew.
     
  15. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    It's not going to work unless you cantilever a beam out of the wall
     
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  16. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    As it's only 400 deep and 1500 long, a couple of decent brackets, 2x1 batten along the back edge, then it should be fine. Plug and screw batten and put a spot of Stixall or similar on it so it is really solid to the wall. Use 80mm screws for brackets and plugs. At the end of the day, it's basically a big shelf so as long as you don't sit on it, then it ain't going nowhere!
     
  17. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    If he has sprogs, they will sit on it.
     
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  18. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    It's going to droop or be pulled off the first time someone leans on it, bad idea.
     
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  19. Dmck

    Dmck New Member

    There should only be elbow weight on it - no sprogs and it's not for sitting on!

    Thanks chaps, I'll give the thunder bolts a try.
     
  20. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Thunderbolts:eek:, coach screws should be ample.
     

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