central heating pressure is going up when system is off

Discussion in 'Plumbers' Talk' started by retry, Sep 25, 2014.

  1. retry

    retry New Member

    hi every one , couple of months ago bought my first property.after couple of weeks noticed that boiler pressure going up very slowly.. 0.5-1bar a week.. CH if off.. i bleeded all radiators.. to reduce pressure.. but that temporary solution.. filling loop is connected but all valves are closed. please help
     
  2. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    If your sure the filling loop valves are shut off completely (only real way to know is to disconnect the filling loop at the boiler end and watch for water leaking from it) , then the only other explanation would be holes in the heat exchanger, so water from the DHW (domestic hot water) side is leaking into the CH (central heating) side... (assuming this is a combi boiler) ;););)
     
  3. As JJ says.

    Almost certainly it's that the filling loop valves are allowing flow by, even tho' they seem to be offski. The loop should have two obvious valves fitted, one at each end. Work out which one is the cold rising main and which is the boiler system side. The former should have the akshull valve tap on it - a small plastic lever or summat. The other end will likely be a longer chrome valve and this is what's called 'non-return', so that system water cannot get back into the cold mains.

    Unscrew the loop hose from either end, obviously leaving the valves in place...

    Does the hose drip? Does the pressure stop rising? There's yer problem - a faulty valve. Easy to replace - just turn off the cold mains.

    If, however, the pressure continues to rise with the hose disconnected, then you have a problem. Is it a combi or a system boiler? Either way, there's a perforation betwixt the system side and the mains. Nasty... :confused:
     
  4. tom.plum

    tom.plum Screwfix Select

    I'd agree with the above posts its 99.9% the filling loop, if its the sort with little plastic heads, the plastic somtimes breaks and even though they appear to be shut, they are not, take of the little plastic head and turn the spindle so the flat bit is across the pipe and not inline with the pipe,
     
  5. retry

    retry New Member

    thank you will try on weekend.. i just interested how filling loop both valves can leak ay yhe same time. if at least1 of them is good.. it will stop water...but will try any way.. i hope it is valve issue.. because if not its a lot of $$ to spend on heat exchanger :((( its combi ..
    obviously its is new boiler.. because when i open it, there even no dust inside...
     
  6. Yep, it sounds unlikely, but akshully only one valve is a shut-off valve with an akshull tap; the other valve is a 'one-way' jobbie and is there to stop water wot has been put into the sealed system from getting out agin.

    Chust disconnect one end of that hose. Question - does it drip? Ok, another question - does the pressure continue to go up with that hose disconnected?
     
  7. itchyspanner

    itchyspanner Member

    the hose should be left disconnected anyway, get some 1/2 blank caps with some rubber washers and cap both sides.
     
  8. retry

    retry New Member

    thanks god.. i disconnected filling loop.. and put a bowl under valve and after 1 hour around 10-20 ml of water.. that means issue is in valve not in exchanger..
    please advise how to change it ... and were to buy . thank you for help so far !!!
     
  9. tom.plum

    tom.plum Screwfix Select

  10. G&W Plumbing & Heating

    G&W Plumbing & Heating Active Member

    If Your plate heat exchanger is ok just change filling loop by turning off cold main, drain htg from radiator or boiler, undo nuts on each end, fit new one with check valve on cold side, bobs ya uncle
     
  11. retry

    retry New Member

  12. G&W Plumbing & Heating

    G&W Plumbing & Heating Active Member

    That is the filling loop but integral in boiler, have you disconnected the 6mm copper tube between that valve & htg
     
  13. retry

    retry New Member

    yes i disconnected filling loop in right side..that secured by metal clip...
     
  14. G&W Plumbing & Heating

    G&W Plumbing & Heating Active Member

    I've never known both sides of that valve to let by. You need to cap the integral loop...caps should be provided, if not get some & cut a standard loop into pipe work, or contact supplier & check if under warranty 1st if not buy replacements & fit
     

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