Damp Spots on Kitchen Walls

Discussion in 'Painters' Talk' started by Gareth Sewell, May 5, 2015.

  1. Gareth Sewell

    Gareth Sewell New Member

    Hi,

    I have recently had a new kitchen fit and have had all of the walls and ceiling skimmed. At various points from 1.5 to 2 m high, the paint has flaked off the walls- or is in the process of.

    To confuse things more, this is happening on an internal party wall. My house is a 100+ year old mid-terraced house.

    Do I need to do extra preperation to these area's- or is it something a damp specialist should be looking at? Would it be covered by my isurance?

    Thanks,

    gareth.
     
  2. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select

    Can you post pics.

    This internal wall, are there any water pipes built into or above it that may be weeping.
     
  3. Gareth Sewell

    Gareth Sewell New Member

    Hi,

    I do not think so- the problem has occured also in the hallway too.

    Regards,

    Gareth.
     
  4. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select

    Well there must be a reason for this, that reason will almost certainly be because of water ingress at some point causing damp, if indeed it is a damp problem, hence the request for pics.
     
  5. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    How long did you leave the skim before painting and what paint did you use?
     
  6. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Active Member

    Were the wall just skimmed or were they patched before skimming? If patched before skimming what was used to patch the backing coat?
     
  7. Gareth Sewell

    Gareth Sewell New Member

  8. Gareth Sewell

    Gareth Sewell New Member

    Hi,

    Please see above images, the first one is the hallway where I made the mistake of re-painting over where it had flaked and the other two are in the kitchen.

    The kitchen was patched in area's and fully skimmed, it was painted about a month after the plastering using firstly a watered down coat of matt emulsion followed by two coats. I can only imagine that any ingress would be on the external walls- which are the least affected.

    Regards,

    Gareth.
     
  9. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Active Member

    Ok firstly your problem is caused by salting or efflorescence. This is where moisture evaporates from the wall or plasterwork and leaves behind the salt on the surface as salt is unable to evaporate.
    Secondly My suspicions are confirmed re the patching of the walls before skimming and whatever was used to patch probably had traces of salt within, or there was damp in the wall. So now everything is drying out its leaving the salt on the surface.

    Just keep brushing off the salt from the wall surface until it ceases to surface, this can take anywhere from a couple of weeks to a few months. Only then, once the wall has stopped salting can you paint it and don't use a paint that contains vinyl. If you don't want to wait then it's a matter of hacking it off and replastering with a sand/cement render incorporating a salt retardant additive and skim over again don't use a paint that contains vinyl.
     
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  10. Gareth Sewell

    Gareth Sewell New Member

    Hi,

    Thank you for your advise. Is there a durable paint which I can get which may withstand any damp / moisture connected with it being a kitchen which is generally humid?

    Regards,

    Gareth.
     
  11. FatHands

    FatHands Well-Known Member

    hi gareth, but that type of paint will be vinyl based and not let the wall breath.
     
  12. Derek.K

    Derek.K New Member

    I had this same issue and despite all my best efforts, I had to have the exterior re-rendered as the walls were soaking up the water in the winter then leaving mass salt deposits when the walls dried in the summer, so even though all seemed good through the winter and I thought I had solved the problem, come late spring / early summer i began seeing bubbling again..
     

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