Orlando

There was a guy interviewed on C4 news yesterday from the gun lobby defending gun ownership and he basically said that if you're shot in America its your own fault because you didn't have a gun to defend your self.

 

Number of deaths by firearms in the USA in 2009: 31,347, which includes 18,735 by suicide.
Source - Google.

Someone said on the radio yesterday that a mass shooting in America is defined as 2 or more people being shot.
Which happens almost daily in America.

 

Don't know what the answer is, usa will never change the gun law sadly, & changing the second amendent, no chance, been tried numerous times over the years without success.
There is no way they can ban semi auto or fully auto weapons, or the huge custom market, that makes extended magazines, for autos & pistols,take the AR15 , it has a 150 round double drum magazine for example available. Roughly 150 rounds fired in 10 seconds.
You want to kill a high number of people, there are many other ways, bombs,gas, & biological which covers a very wide spectrum.

 

And in the USA,their are inventors who make a living from gun mods.
This totally insane,& impractical, BUT it shows what some get up modifiying rifles from magazine to belt fed, regardly of calibre, it would still kill you, the 22 LR is effective to about 150yds, & would still do a lot of tissue damage.

 

Piers Morgan spent time in America trying to get that weapon banned afaik.
The American gun lobby must have been cacking itself.

 

Amen.

Never lose sight that there's billions of people out there - but only a teeny, tiny proportion do anything so heinous. That must surely mean that most are basically 'ok'!

Only a relatively small number of any religious group wants to drag us back to the dark ages, and they will, of course, fail completely.

But, still, we are incredibly tolerant of all these 'lie factories'. For that is what they are.

 

Blimey, I'd never have guessed that. 2/3rds of all deaths by firearm are suicide?

Mind you, that's also very tragic.

 

And some of that figure must include fatal accidents, childern playing with weapons, peeps shooting thereselves while cleaning a weapon which they don't realise is still loaded.

Had a close shave many years ago with a musket a friend had, he played with the weapon as a kid, as did his kids.
I was cleaning it one day, all I did was to blow some dust from the flash pan,pull back hammer to full cock,then pulled trigger,there was a almighty flash, bang, & a hole big enough to put your fist through in the hallway door.
I don't know who was more surprised, me, my friend or the rotty I barely missed by a few inches.

Kids has played with that musket probably 80 years or so, amazing no one had been killed.

 

My take on this is that I think(and only guessing from what we know about it), the killer, having frequented the club many times was gay himself. Knowing his fathers views/religion on gays, he was guilt-ridden because of his own 'persuasion' and chose his actions to make a point to his father/family that in doing what he did would improve his father's admiration of him, whilst ridding himself of the guilt/humiliation that his family might bestow on him.

Mr. HandyAndy - Really

 

I agree with you on this one HA, what a sad state of affairs.

 

Purely out of curiosity, I googled muslim homosexuality & Islam teaching about it,there are numerous muslim countries where there is still a death sentence for homosexuality, which is outlawed on earth, but allowed in paradise apparantly.
Homosexuality has been around for hundreds of years, it something religion can't take away
it's a sad thing, that all religions can't accept it & the people who are gay that have to hide it.

I quote from the link below:

Interestingly, the same rules don't seem to apply in paradise, where martyrs for the cause of Allah enjoy an orgy of virgins and "perpetual youth" Quran (56:17) (otherwise known as "boys" Quran (52:24)). Quran (76:19) bluntly states, "And immortal boys will circulate among them, when you see them you will count them as scattered pearls." Technically, the mere presence of boys doesn't necessarily mean sex, however it is strongly implied from the particular emphasis on the effeminacy, handsomeness and "freshness" of the boys. The female virgins of paradise are also compared to pearls (56:23). [Editor's note: We are not implying a link between homosexuality and pedophilia here anymore than we are implying one between heterosexuality and pedophilia when recounting that Muhammad's preferred wife was a 9-year-old girl.]

A very difficult religion to understand.


https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/homosexuality.aspx

 

Funny.....no ones mentioned a 'False Flag and crises actors'.

 

Most major religions have a big problem with gays, probably because they were invented by mysogonist bigots thousands of years ago and have no place in modern life and governance.

 

My dad hates gays and he ain't religious. When it came on the news he passed no comment. Like he wasn't that bothered.

 

My brother has a strong dislike for them too. When they first introduced them on east enders he threw his television out for years as he didn't want his children watching that filth.

 

One thing that infuriates me, is when LGBT or GLBT get custody of young children/babies.
What the is the judge thinking of, awarding custody, it must affect the childern as they grow up in a gay house.

 

One wee correction - homosexuality has been around for many millions of years.

 

Wot - the kids are turned gay?

I suspect it's more like they'll be brought up to be tolerant of all human beings. (With a terrific sense of style, and well good at dancing ).

Unlike what they'd likely be in a strongly religious household.