Shower fan regs

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by diymostthings, Feb 3, 2017.

  1. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    I plan to fit a 230V IPX4 extract fan in zone 2 of a shower enclosure with 6A 30mA RCBO protection from a lighting circuit. So far so compliant.

    However, I don't like the idea of all the lights going out when someone is showering during the dark hours, so I am exploring other ways of feeding the fan.

    I do have another mains feed close to the shower room but unfortunately this is a 6mm cooker cable, protected by a 40A 30mA RCBO.

    Question: Can I spur off the cooker feed with a 3A fused spur (in 1.5mm cable) to feed the fan? I would still fit the obligatory 3 pole isolation switch, and to my mind, the circuit would still be protected by the 30mA RCBO. So the lights would stay on if the fan (or cooker) tripped the RCBO.

    Thanks for any thougths

    diymostthings
     
  2. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Hmmm it would work, but its not very good tbqh Diy, and maybe it might be a reg breach?
     
  3. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    Sorry - I meant Zone 1.

    diymostthings
     
  4. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    Thanks JP - that's what worries me - it doesn't "sound" right does it. Usually you can see a reason for a reg. but in this case I can't see a reason why not. Perhaps someone might know...
     
  5. leesparkykent

    leesparkykent Well-Known Member

    Why would your lights go off when someone is showering?
     
  6. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    Because the fan could trip the RCBO which alos feeds the lights
     
  7. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Hmmmmm - steamy fan/mA dump /rcd trip/the rcbo also feeds lights/total darkness but shower keeps working..how to circumvent situation?
     
  8. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Answer - do as I do on all rewires and fit a dedicated rcbo circuit for fan - but this does not help Diy's question. What to do, what to do?
     
  9. Mr Milliamp

    Mr Milliamp Member

    Best option is a 12v selv fan as its in Zone 1, very unlikely to trip RCD too.
     
  10. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Thats a good idea Mr M
     
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  11. leesparkykent

    leesparkykent Well-Known Member

    Use a fan suitable for the application then.... Why not fit an inline fan.
     
  12. leesparkykent

    leesparkykent Well-Known Member

    You honestly install a dedicated circuit for a bathroom fan?
     
  13. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Yes I do Lee - in most cases.
     
  14. leesparkykent

    leesparkykent Well-Known Member

    That could be a lot of unesseasy effort/cost.
     
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  15. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    I suppose so Lee - but its the same old story really - if it was an inline fan run in ceiling void etc then maybe things might be relaxed. Its the ''analyse the situation scenario''

    Example - is it a through the wall fan? Is it an inline selv fan? etc etc
     
  16. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    I've seen some very good prices on rcbo's - one day I will fit a 16 way DB with 12 or more rcbo's; and any unused ways will be blanked ready for more if need be,
     
  17. leesparkykent

    leesparkykent Well-Known Member

    If a fan is tripping the circuit due to steam etc it's not fit for purpose.
     
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  18. leesparkykent

    leesparkykent Well-Known Member

    I like the SBS compact RCBO's, dual bus bar and are switched neutral.
     
  19. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    DP rcbo's Lee?
     
  20. leesparkykent

    leesparkykent Well-Known Member

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    No they are single pole switched neutral. If they was double pole it would offer over current protection to both poles. Here's a pic if you haven't seen them.
     

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