Toilet light switch - pull cord or wallplate?

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Philde, Feb 6, 2016.

  1. Philde

    Philde Member

    My downstairs toilet currently has a pull cord light switch. The room is approx 2m square and contains only toilet and a sink/unit. The sink unit is approx 1.5m from the switch. Does it have to be a pull cord switch or could I chase down and fit an ordinary switch?

    Any advise welcome.

    Thanks

    Phil...
     
  2. madhatter1uk

    madhatter1uk Screwfix Select

    You only have to have a pull cord in a bathroom.
     
  3. peter palmer

    peter palmer Screwfix Select

    If I had a pound for every time some smart **** joiner or plumber has told me I cant put a switch in a downstairs toilet I would have about £20.
     
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  4. Philde

    Philde Member

    Thanks for replies. I assumed that to be the case as unlikely to be any activity to cause steaming or excessive splashing, (oops, nearly left the 'p' out) but wanted to be sure.

    Phil...
     
  5. nffc

    nffc Active Member

    You can also have a wall switch in a room containing a bath or shower. The regs allow for this is some circumstances. All electrical equipment must be installed taking into consideration the suitability of the surrounding environment. Yes it may only have a toilet and sink but if the only place for the switch was right next to the basin it may not be appropriate.
     
  6. tina lucinda lane

    tina lucinda lane Screwfix Select

    i say keep the pull cord as you have the basin so wet hands can happen also a wall switch would be to close to the basin so i think the regs are against you
     
  7. Jitender

    Jitender Screwfix Select

    How about a sensor instead.

    An occupancy sensor?
     
  8. peter palmer

    peter palmer Screwfix Select

    No regs for a switch next to a basin and I have come up with an ingenious idea to dry my hands, I'm going to call it a towel.

    Although I dont really see a problem with touching a switch with wet hands in the first place. In fact I'll try it next time I need a ****.
     
  9. nffc

    nffc Active Member

    placing any electrical equipment in a place that it could be exposed to water and does not have the correct IP rating is against regs.
     
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  10. peter palmer

    peter palmer Screwfix Select

    Why would it be exposed to water, Its a sink not a fountain.
     
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  11. nffc

    nffc Active Member

    You only need to go into my toilet after the children to understand that. :eek:
     
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  12. peter palmer

    peter palmer Screwfix Select

    As I suspected, **** all.
     
  13. tina lucinda lane

    tina lucinda lane Screwfix Select

    you try that tell us how much ur coffin cost when ur done cus thats what your asking for.
     
  14. tina lucinda lane

    tina lucinda lane Screwfix Select

    thank you for the back up on that i thought i was right
     
  15. peter palmer

    peter palmer Screwfix Select

    The difference in a bathroom to a toilet is obvious, copious amounts of steam is generated in a bathroom, this soaks everything in water, added to the fact you are wet and naked its a good idea to keep anything electrical well out of the way. Water is not a good conductor of electric, however if you add all of the above scenarios together then I can see the point of not having switches near the bath or shower.

    Whats the difference in having a switch near a basin in a toilet and having a socket near a sink in a kitchen, you might switch the kettle on after washing a cup, doesn't mean to say its dangerous.

    Just for the avoidance of doubt I'm not suggesting putting the switch inside the basin but if its somewhere near at the normal height you would expect to find a switch then I don't see any issue with it. Incidentally what difference does it make if its outside, if you cant be bothered drying your hands does the movement of air walking outside evaporate the required amount of water needed to make touching a switch safe?
     
  16. seneca

    seneca Screwfix Select

    It makes me laugh, all this "because there's a basin there", what about a kitchen then? There's a bloody sink in there but no one suggests a pull cord switch is needed there!
     
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  17. tina lucinda lane

    tina lucinda lane Screwfix Select

    regs are regs good luk selling your house with out an upto date cert on the electrics (as any decent spark wont sign off on reg breaking work) not getting high horse here just pointing out the ovious
     
  18. Brian_L

    Brian_L Active Member

    What regulation says you can't have a wall mounted light switch in a toilet?
     
  19. To comply fully with the regs, I would keep the pull cord switch or fit an ordinary switch outside the toilet.
     
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  20. peter palmer

    peter palmer Screwfix Select

    This is better than East Enders for drama. Forget the subsidence or dry rot, the deals off because the switch is inside the cloakroom.

    Have you ever been on a big job Alex?
     
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